Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yupppp Maybe he gets that opportunity somewhere, I'd just rather it not be here, if we want someone who could develop into a bottom six NHL'er we may as well give our own prospects a shot at it I agree... i dont want him near our young core, too much whining for trades.. refusal to play in the ahl... forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: If it was 3M beyond this year then of course we wouldn't do that, but it's only for this year (Pro-rated). Unless that cap is specifically for some other reason (Which it may be) then there is no risk to it. I just don't want this goofball near our team. If he cannot be anything more than a healthy scratch on the OILERS he will he nothing for us. I'm not limiting our own flexibility at the TDL just to take a flyer on a total bust. I get the thinking but this guy isn't the project should target. 31 other teams don't even want him for free and neither should we 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: I just don't want this goofball near our team. If he cannot be anything more than a healthy scratch on the OILERS he will he nothing for us. I'm not limiting our own flexibility at the TDL just to take a flyer on a total bust. I get the thinking but this guy isn't the project should target. 31 other teams don't even want him for free and neither should we That's valid and the GMs would have a better idea of whether he would have a negative impact on the team overall. We don't know enough on that aspect. I don't think 31 other teams have had the opportunity to take him for free yet, and I would wager a strong guess that Columbus may if given the opportunity as they have even less to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: I just don't want this goofball near our team. If he cannot be anything more than a healthy scratch on the OILERS he will he nothing for us. I'm not limiting our own flexibility at the TDL just to take a flyer on a total bust. I get the thinking but this guy isn't the project should target. 31 other teams don't even want him for free and neither should we I agree with everything but the goofball part, lol. He seems like a good kid. My guess is he's playing in Europe next year. Edited February 10, 2023 by rekker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 250Integra Posted February 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 Get him and pretend we drafted him over Juolevi 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 LOL that guy's a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: That's valid and the GMs would have a better idea of whether he would have a negative impact on the team overall. We don't know enough on that aspect. I don't think 31 other teams have had the opportunity to take him for free yet, and I would wager a strong guess that Columbus may if given the opportunity as they have even less to lose. I should add too I'm a Vancouver fan talking about the oilers. I have no choice but to lean towards the negative side of things as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I think there is enough there to take a swing for free. More money on the wing would be concerning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mustard Tiger said: I should add too I'm a Vancouver fan talking about the oilers. I have no choice but to lean towards the negative side of things as well Haha me too, except I don't actually mind the Oilers, just not a fan of the Flames who seem like our true division rivals. Here is actually a pretty good write up on it from the Oilers perspective. Actually sounds like a lot of situational issues more than the player himself. Also the highlight that he is actually defensively sound but the numbers aren't there this year. As mentioned at the bottom of the article as far as deal structure, I wonder if something like Puljujarvi + 2nd from Edmonton for Schenn would be an ideal setup. We get our high pick, Schenn gets to stay close-ish to home and Puljujarvi is a multi-month lotto ticket experiment that either works or doesn't. Article: https://oilersnation.com/news/if-jesse-puljujarvi-is-getting-traded-which-teams-are-likely-to-take-the-chance 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Haha me too, except I don't actually mind the Oilers, just not a fan of the Flames who seem like our true division rivals. Here is actually a pretty good write up on it from the Oilers perspective. Actually sounds like a lot of situational issues more than the player himself. Also the highlight that he is actually defensively sound but the numbers aren't there this year. As mentioned at the bottom of the article as far as deal structure, I wonder if something like Puljujarvi + 2nd from Edmonton for Schenn would be an ideal setup. We get our high pick, Schenn gets to stay close-ish to home and Puljujarvi is a multi-month lotto ticket experiment that either works or doesn't. Article: https://oilersnation.com/news/if-jesse-puljujarvi-is-getting-traded-which-teams-are-likely-to-take-the-chance Would be all for Schenn to Coilers for a 2nd round pick and PoolParty. Worse case we walk away from him as an rfa and he becomes an ufa, if he plays a game that fits our teams need maybe he can be signed for under his 3m cap hit number? If Canucks are deadset on trading Boeser, bringing in PoolParty for the rest of the year is a super low risk move 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Maybe they could trade him for Matthew Tkachuk. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznmonk Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 15 hours ago, Provost said: Nope. I think he could possibly turn into a fine middle six winger, we can leverage that cap space for future assets back instead or to grease the wheels on another trade by being able to take back more money than we send out. Probably no one qualifies him as a RFA as that is more than what he is worth, again you can use that cap space in the summer to help out a team in cap trouble and help us. We could try to get him in the offseason if we felt we needed to as a UFA at less than half that salary by promising him opportunity on a crappy roster. Nothing compelling about this player to make me think he is worth more than the empty cap space. We are one of the few teams that has the real dollars to take on a bad contract and the cap space (well LTIR space) to do it between now and the deadline. There are going to be a lot of contenders looking to shed dollars so they can boost their roster and willing to pay in futures to do it. A team like Arizona only wants to take on cap if there aren't real dollars attached, so they aren't in the same game we want to be at the deadline. They nhl should take out the QA should be what have you done in the past year to get a raise!!! Other then that market value is the QA for a RFA or UFA. Give them league min then pay them for bonuses if they hit it.. no more lazy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Haha me too, except I don't actually mind the Oilers, just not a fan of the Flames who seem like our true division rivals. There should be hate enough for both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, McBackup said: There should be hate enough for both. True, but most of it goes to the Leafs anyways. Hard to hate a team as much as them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Pass, sign him at 1M this summer when everybody else snubs him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, timberz21 said: Pass, sign him at 1M this summer when everybody else snubs him. Only way that happens is by claiming him this year and having time to have a real discussion on a fair contract and his development. This would be assuming he shows us something in that audition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 18 hours ago, billabong said: have you seen him play hockey? He’s terrible….imagine riding shot gun with 2 of the 3 best players in the world and not having a career year? Like that’s a different kind of suck Such a good point. The allure of draft spot says yes but practically speaking, if he can't put up points with McDrai and he can't stick on the team as a good 2 way player in bottom 6 on a defensively weak team, what would he do any differently here? I don't know his game enough to say claim him or not but just thinking abiut the opportunity he's been given playing with 2 of the best players in the league and getting waived sounds like bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Only way that happens is by claiming him this year and having time to have a real discussion on a fair contract and his development. This would be assuming he shows us something in that audition. He’s making 3M$ now. I don’t see him re-signing for less. He’ll go on the market see if a fish will bite. if nobody does, only then will you be able to sign him to a show me what you got 1 year deal IMO we have other priority and young players who needs ice time before we make a commitment to him prior to July 1st Edited February 11, 2023 by timberz21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I see Kekalainen (CBJ) picking him up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 If he gets waived Columbus will claim him I bet. I mean, why not really. Their team is garbage anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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