Maniwaki Canuck Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: We are doomed then given how the Russian army is doing these days Doing just fine, thank you very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myre Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, NUCKER67 said: Watching Kravtsov forecheck and as the play develops goes to the exact spot he's supposed to be in. IQ. Lockwood couldn't or wouldn't do that. VAN wins this trade. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said: That's a fair deal and gamble. Sounds like he wants to be here, so perhaps that will help. My first thought: Add this trade to the looooooong list of projects players over the past ten years that were hopeful, but didn't work out. Maybe this time will be different? This time it didn’t cost us anything significant though. This time we actually have a farm team close to home to develop these guys too. Completely different circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 What’s interesting is that he’s put up similar numbers to Panarin in the KHL around the same age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Odd. said: Mikheyev Kuzmenko Podkolzin Kravtsov Michkov?? A nice range of Russian names 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 It's a low risk, high reward type of move. Lockwood and a 7th isn't going to kill the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, stawns said: Believe he would have to pass through waivers, so he won't be going to Abby. Have to think Boeser is as good as gone now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 You can't fault this move...well some can...but.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, J-Dizzle said: At one point Cassel’s shinkaruk jensen looked like top six forwards to be too…. hopefull this turns out better than that lol. Nowhere near Podz Raty Kravtsov Shinkaruk was the only one with the talent and upside MAYBE comparable to 1 of these guys. Cassels and Jensen were not offensively gifted relative to these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted February 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, qwijibo said: I absolutely love this based entirely on the fact that some Rangers fans thought this guy was going to return a 1st round pick or a 2nd and a blue chip prospect. Lol. Their tears are going to be delicious 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Mando27 said: Have to think Boeser is as good as gone now. Let's hope so, no one is not saying it's a low return it's just we keep acquiring wingers. Why the need for so many wingers? There must be players going out before the deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Locke Lamora said: Man, that’s some pretty high end optimism there. Optimism > Pessimism We just acquired a former top 10 pick that just turned 23 that's had success in the KHL from a team that has trouble developing their high end forward prospects, and we got him for almost nothing. This is about as low risk/high reward as NHL trades get. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, HKSR said: All the talent and size are there. Just need to develop them properly. I’ll give Raty some more slack since he’s only 20, but each of those 3 guys don’t appear to have the offensive potential to form a second line to me. Need to see signs of it fairly soon or I think its kinda fantasyland thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: Lol. That bar is awfully low. That statement right there tells you enough about the state of the d. Our D sucks. But he's still been good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, DSVII said: This trade has more to do with cap leverage than the value of Lockwood as a prospect. NYR is going all in on Kane. Benning could have chosen to use his cap space for deals like this rather than going all in on UFAs. Even if you aren't sold on management it's great to see us leveraging cap space as a weapon. I get it, Rangers are trying to clear some room for Kane. Still, they were still looking for -something- back for Kravstov and I doubt Allvin was looking to give away Lockwood. I’m happy their taking a big cut here while up in the count but I don’t see Lockwood as a zero value piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cup_Joneser Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I like this trade for a few reasons. It's the right price, players like Lockwood are easily replaced and it allows Atu or maybe even Dries to head back to the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Locke Lamora said: I’ll give Raty some more slack since he’s only 20, but each of those 3 guys don’t appear to have the offensive potential to form a second line to me. Need to see signs of it fairly soon or I think its kinda fantasyland thinking. You're kidding right? They haven't shown it in the NHL yet, but all 3 of them have shown offensive prowess at various levels. That's why 2 of the 3 were top 10 picks, and the other was at one point slated to go 1st oa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odd. Posted February 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2023 Rangers fans becoming a little unhinged on HF. There’s an ongoing joke that he’s a Russian Gretzky and is the best prospect since McDavid. Here’s a fun post made just now: One of the few players who truly appreciates the aesthetics of the sport and aims not only to win games, but to provide a beautiful visual experience to fans. Watch him in slow motion and it’s truly mesmerizing. His skates melt through the top layer of ice like a knife through butter, crossovers with the grace of ballet on ice; his wavy dirty blonde locs flowing in the wind behind him are just the icing on the cake. He's a true marvel to watch. Kravtsov studies the game, he actually did college courses on sports management and coaching; when he’s out there he isn’t simply a player. Players have become a cog in the wheel, nobody has revolutionized the sport since Patrick Roy with the Butterfly; but Kravtsov is the next revolution in hockey. He is crafting a performance art, all of the drama surrounding him is part of his theatrical nature and will build up into his redemption arc. He has already strategized his entire career with the precision of a Machiavellian genius. Most NHL players play checkers, the McDavids & MacKinnons play chess, Gretzky played 4D chess; Kravtsov plays underwater Madden NFL '06. He takes cues from Elizabethan theatre but with a veneer of the early wave of post-modern satirist playwrites, if you’ve ever dove into Anton Chekhov’s early works some of Kravtsov’s plays will start making a little more sense. Through the eyes of a modern day hockey fan they might not "get" Kravtsov yet, but in the future when stats become advanced enough they'll be able to pin down exactly what it was that made him so special. In a few hundred years his game tape will be in museums, and I'm not talking in the HoF, I'm talking in the Louvre. Kravtsov is bigger than hockey. Gretzky may have been "The Great One", but Kravtsov is "The Chosen One 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, HKSR said: Nowhere near Podz Raty Kravtsov Shinkaruk was the only one with the talent and upside MAYBE comparable to 1 of these guys. Cassels and Jensen were not offensively gifted relative to these guys. I think that’s a little debatable… the point however is that there’s no guarantee these guys turn out how we think they may. I’m pretty confident Podz will be a top six player based on what we’ve seen from him. Other two… jury is out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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