Sbriggs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, filthycanuck said: The only trade hes done so far that weve won, and not by much is the Sven Baertchi trade. Everything else has been pretty questionable, and this is year 3 of the Benning era. Gillis had a handful of deals that we've won handidly in the same number of years, with a presidents trophy and a stanley cup final to boot Ya but Gillis was handed a stacked team playing at its peak, look what Benning was dealt. And really its his 3rd draft not his third year. Talk that crap after Benning's 5th season under his belt. Your not even correct only giving him 1 good trade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) You don't trade for players like Juolevi. They're just too expensive and hard to come across. That's why you draft them instead. His English is pretty darn good compared to Laine and pool party. And his mindset is there. The thing i love with the 3 Finns is that they all want to make it to the Pro asap and their mindset and heart are in it 100%. I keep saying this, you build your team around defense, then work your way up. Ask Philadelphia, ask Nashville, ask Columbus, ask WPG, etc. We're still ways to go on this rebuild. Obviously Benning wants to bring in a winning mentality and this season proved to us that sucking doesn't mean jack shiz. Our reputation for 'sucking' is nowhere near TO and EDM who constantly suck for years and years. Good drafting, and we'll get to where we need to be. As long as Benning doesn't trade away first round picks, we're good. The nice added perk to Juolevi is that he is eligible to go the AHL straight away. Utica's got Demko, possibly Virtanen, possibly Juolevi, Stetcher, Subban, Pedan, etc now and we've brought in a winning mentality towards Utica. Another Calder Cup run isn't out of the reach. Edited June 25, 2016 by Odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newgm Posted June 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2016 After losing out on the lottery, dropping to 5th and then missing out, by Dubois going at 3 and Jesse P at 4, everyone expected Tkachuk at 5, so the initial surprise of Juolevi was a bit anti-climatic. The top 3 forwards were considered potential franchise players and seemed to separate themselves, the fact Columbus coveted PLD as much as Benning isn't shocking, so Benning, true to his word picked the D-man with the highest hockey IQ with arguably the best chance to be a number 1 PMD, JB obviously feels that Juolevi is less risky than Tkachuk. His size, hockey IQ, defensive positioning, offensive upside and mobility along with his success at every level was judged by Benning as second to none and less risky overall. A rare combination too valuable to pass up on given the opportunity to make the pick. Hard to disagree with the logic, and while I'm disappointed at our lack of good luck, I'm perfectly happy with the pick and knowing we finally have a solid D-man prospect with the tools to elevate his game to potential elite status. Those that argue that he wasn't ranked as a true number one should look at the list of Norris trophy winners and where they were picked, that should put things into perspective. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, GettinGuddyWithIt said: I think you forgot about Bo Horvat, you know the guy that had more points in his second season than both Harnrik and Kesler. Bo is not a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Western Red said: So are we talking OEL? Salo? thats all I have atm for finnish lineage. I like ALF LIVes example...IF Julovi can turn into a Niedermayer than Benning will look like a genius...I will not say Lidstrom (as much as I wish it happens) just because, c;mon, Lidstrom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Oh and Edmonton didn't "screw us over." let's stop blaming them, they took the logical choice at #4. Columbus screwed us by picking PLD at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'm very excited we got Juolevi, he's going to look real good patrolling our end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: Ya but Gillis was handed a stacked team playing at its peak, look what Benning was dealt. And really its his 3rd draft not his third year. Talk that crap after Benning's 5th season under his belt. Your not even correct only giving him 1 good trade. MG was definitely not handed a stacked team. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: your comparison was lazy and didn't contribute anything to the thread...you can GTFO if you want Lazy? Your picture is Han Solo bud.... Naw that's okay I'm a Canucks fan, I'm here for the long haul Kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted June 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2016 This free agency will feature a franchise center, a power forward, and two skilled 30 goal wingers. Not too many young puck moving defensemen available though. That's why you draft them. It's something we haven't done nearly enough of in our history. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Camel Toe Drag said: Lazy? Your picture is Han Solo bud.... Naw that's okay I'm a Canucks fan, I'm here for the long haul Kid. ...I've been here since 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I really wanted Dubois, but that move by Columbus.... Just... Wow. I didn't expect this pick over MT, but I can only assume that Benning - who knows more about this business than any of us - sees something special here. Wouldnt have been my pick, but excited to bolster our d. I trust he is going to be a very good player. Not sure where we expect to get our high end scoring from now, mind you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, kloubek said: I really wanted Dubois, but that move by Columbus.... Just... Wow. I didn't expect this pick over MT, but I can only assume that Benning - who knows more about this business than any of us - sees something special here. Wouldnt have been my pick, but excited to bolster our d. I trust he is going to be a very good player. Not sure where we expect to get our high end scoring from now, mind you. STAMKOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, numb3r 16 said: In 3 years I doubt edler would be on the team, if he is then he probably wouldn't be on the first pair, either Hutton or a trade would take his spot Agree. But you know what I'm saying. We will have a pretty good defence core. Depending on how far Juolevi, Hutton, Gud, and Tryamkin develop, we are going to have a very good top 6. Possibly a championship calibre defence core. With Juolevi we have a future top pairing and a replacement for Edler if and when he leaves the team. And don't forget Briesbois, he has a potential to be a top 4. Briesbois' game is based on smarts and making high percentage play. He kind of reminds me of the way Dan Hamhuis used to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILL BILL NECRO Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said: I wouldn't rush him. Let him develop one more year at London where they develop prospects arguably better then any other junior program. like some other poster stated he can play in Utica next year.... That is huge and will speed his up development considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's likely that he'll be rushed into the lineup regardless of the camp he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: ...I've been here since 2003 Surprised you haven't learned what it takes to make a hockey team yet... Kinda sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Camel Toe Drag said: Surprised you haven't learned what it takes to make a hockey team yet... Kinda sad really. Keep it up boys. Your sniping is way more exciting than this draft is turning out to be. 8 minutes ago, NEON.KNEE said: ...I've been here since 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just now, Camel Toe Drag said: Surprised you haven't learned what it takes to make a hockey team yet... Kinda sad really. Julovi was a good pick... Comparing him to Maata wasn't a good comparison...it was lazy...You only said it because he is also Finnish, are both former Knights are are similar in size...Julovi's ceiling is much higher than Maaata's...I made no comment about building a team anywhere you are just drawing your own conclusions and running your mouth...kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedinMadness Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 ok.. people are doubting if he can play in the ahl?? i want him in the nhl. tampa just selected a guy that can step in right away? a top 5 pick d man can certainly do that... he will make this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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