Popular Post Camel Toe Drag Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Indecisive said: I love Juolevi. Before we even knew we had 5, I was hoping for him (other than Keller) very smooth, very safe D-man. Best in the draft IMO. I would project him at a #3 D-man minimum. I wonder why people are so mad about not getting a scorer. Scoring wingers aren't that rare. You can find 25-30 goal scorers through free agency, and we had no game changing D prospects before juolevi. The only thing I don't like is that we let Tkachuk go to Calgary. He's gonna be a pain to play against. It will be fun seeing him and Virtanen go at it. He can go to the front of the net all he wants, Gudbranson and Tryamkin will be there to meet him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If we want to groom Juolevi into a future Provorov or Werenski we need to send him back to junior next year for 1 season, then bring him up to the AHL where he can play at least 40 games against men and see if he makes the NHL transition right away. If not, leave him in the AHL as their top D-man and give him a shot the following year whereby Edler won't be our top man anymore, Hutton will be logging bigger minutes and Juolevi can slot into 15-18 minutes a night as a twenty year old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: If we want to groom Juolevi into a future Provorov or Werenski we need to send him back to junior next year for 1 season, then bring him up to the AHL where he can play at least 40 games against men and see if he makes the NHL transition right away. If not, leave him in the AHL as their top D-man and give him a shot the following year whereby Edler won't be our top man anymore, Hutton will be logging bigger minutes and Juolevi can slot into 15-18 minutes a night as a twenty year old. Leave it to the coaches, trainers, and management when the time comes - training camp - and I'm sure they'll have far more information and a much more sound, informed opinion on the matter. Btw, Provorov/Werenski were drafted last year - one remained in college and finished in the AHL, the other in the WHL - they're not really "future" references, they're in their +1 draft seasons - and every player is different. A "future" Noah Hanifin etc would be equally acceptable. Edited June 26, 2016 by oldnews 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, Indecisive said: I love Juolevi. Before we even knew we had 5, I was hoping for him (other than Keller) very smooth, very safe D-man. Best in the draft IMO. I would project him at a #3 D-man minimum. I wonder why people are so mad about not getting a scorer. Scoring wingers aren't that rare. You can find 25-30 goal scorers through free agency, and we had no game changing D prospects before juolevi. The only thing I don't like is that we let Tkachuk go to Calgary. He's gonna be a pain to play against. It will be fun seeing him and Virtanen go at it. That's just the thing. In addition to being the BPA, it remains the fact that the marketplace for defensemen is simply that much slimmer and more difficult to deal in than it is for forwards. When you can add a projected top pairing blueliner, that is simply a rarer asset than a projected top line forward. Take this free agency as a representative example. How many top 6 forwards are on the market and going to free agency relative to top 4 defensemen? It is not even close, and hardly, if ever, really is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: If we want to groom Juolevi into a future Provorov or Werenski we need to send him back to junior next year for 1 season, then bring him up to the AHL where he can play at least 40 games against men and see if he makes the NHL transition right away. If not, leave him in the AHL as their top D-man and give him a shot the following year whereby Edler won't be our top man anymore, Hutton will be logging bigger minutes and Juolevi can slot into 15-18 minutes a night as a twenty year old. Wait. What? You actually like something? What a great day this must be for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr.53 Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 In the last few weeks Benning has acquired a 24 year old high calibre shut-down defensman in Erik Gudbranson, a 22 hometown PMD NCAA champion, and arguable the top college free agent to hit the market along with Drake Cagguilla in Troy Stecher, and a stud potential top pairing defensman in Olli Juolevi, who was basically the consensus pick among scouts and GMs after teh combine for being the best D man in the draft, who was the top dman for London in their historic memoral cup run. People need to stop complaining. A couple months ago, our defence was by far our weakest point. Now we have amanded the NHL team and bolstered their ranks, as well as add 2 awesome prospects. Just like that, our defence went from weak, to not so bad. Juolevi honestly has all the tools to be an impact NHLer, sooner rather than later. He has the skills to be able to step in after another full season, if not on opening day. Excellent skating ability, (Especially important for new age NHL defensmen) Excellent vision, (Great for QBing a PP) Tremendous passing ability, including long cross ice passes that hit their man tape to tape, like Hutton Active stick in the defensive zone, and excellent defensive stickwork. His best asset, his incredible hockey IQ, which helps him in all three zones, the powerplay, gap control, and more Great two-way hockey sense and ability. Poise beyond his years. Some people like the PK Subban type defensman who plays massive energy and emotino. Juolevi, although very passionate, plays a very cold, poised, and calculated game. Thinking on higher levels than most, and demonstrating things like the patience needed to turn it over, the instinct to join the rush, and the ability to seem like the calmest most mature guy out there. His only real knock, and the only real reason is lack of lean muscle. Juolevi already has the frame at 6'2 185 pounds, and all the tools. It's actually very similar to one of his best friends, fellow finns, and former London Knight Olli Maata. Maata gives Juolevi pointers on every little thing he needs, including preparation and what to expect. honestly think Maata, isn't too far off to what Juolevi can become, if not better. Juolevi, if he can add some lean muscle to his 6'2 frame can seriously be a top pairing defensman for us for years to come. Horvat leads the forwards, and Juolevi leads the D. Juolevi, hutton, Tyamkin, and Subban to me are our top 4 and core group of young defensmen. Guys like Stecher and Brisebois are our secondary options. Guys like Gudbranson are still only 24 years old as well, making him only like 1 year older than Hutton. So in actuallity we have 5-7 guys with legitimate NHL potential if you ask me, and 5 guys with top 4 potential or better. I for one think a future paring of Juolevi and Tyramkin or Gudbranson could be spectacular. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Check out what happens behind the scenes of the NHL Draft as Canucks TV follows Olli Juolevi through the media gauntlet after he was selected 5th overall at the 2016 NHL Entry Draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomz Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Great pick by Benning. Top quality defencemen are always undervalued until you need one, and it's good to see he saw beyond the hype of the other forwards not taken in the top 4. With the unexpected arrival of Hutton, Tryamkin's debut, and the acquisition of Gudbranson and Juolevi, our defense looks well built compared to the patchwork we had last year. Defence also helps offence too. The sooner we take the puck away from the other team, the sooner our forwards can take the play to the other end of the ice and generate offence. Our team last year was terrible in our own zone, and it decreased our offensive time, increased the risk of injury, and ultimately led to our spiral to the bottom of the league. If the quality of your forwards is an indication of your offensive ceiling, then the quality of your defence is your offensive floor and the Canucks fell through the floor last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 hour ago, canuckledraggin said: Wait. What? You actually like something? What a great day this must be for you. of course, it's a matter of like and not how good a prospect is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 On 6/25/2016 at 9:28 AM, Rex425 said: Cya, don't come back. Worst fan base in history of sport, we do something they get pissed, we dont do something they get pissed, we draft a potential #1 defender they get pissed lol smh -__- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aqua59 Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 On June 24, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Warhippy said: Well...hope he can skate Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett and Tkachuk will be eating this team up for quite a few seasons... Actually that group along with others will be needing to figure out how to get through Vancouvers defence and score. That's how this is shaping up. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 minute ago, aqua59 said: Actually that group along with others will be needing to figure out how to get through Vancouvers defence and score. That's how this is shaping up. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Sami Salo should mentor this guy! Teach him the ways of the clapper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, Odd. said: Sami Salo should mentor this guy! Teach him the ways of the clapper... He remembers when Salo got a puck to the nuts as a Canuck. He also remembered the 2011 run because fellow scandanavians the Sedins were involved The Lumme Salo Juolevi connection is going to turn into a big deal imo. His eyes are always looking up ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blömqvist Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, nomz said: Great pick by Benning. Top quality defencemen are always undervalued until you need one, and it's good to see he saw beyond the hype of the other forwards not taken in the top 4. With the unexpected arrival of Hutton, Tryamkin's debut, and the acquisition of Gudbranson and Juolevi, our defense looks well built compared to the patchwork we had last year. We've come a heck of a long way in just a year. I remember at the start of last season our entire defense prospect core with a decent shot of becoming an NHLer was Frank Corrado, with unknowns and question marks in Subban, Hutton, and Tryamkin. Now look at it. Benning traded for a former 3rd overall pick Gudbranson who is already a full time top 4 defenseman. Hutton and Tryamkin are NHLers, with Hutton representing Canada and winning gold at the World Championships. Benning signed Stecher, who won the NCAA championship. He then drafted Juolevi, who won the World Junior Gold, OHL championship, and the Memorial Cup. Defense wins championships, and Benning is building a defense core that has already won them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 4 hours ago, TheLiveWire said: His only real knock, and the only real reason is lack of lean muscle. Juolevi already has the frame at 6'2 185 pounds, and all the tools. It's actually very similar to one of his best friends, fellow finns, and former London Knight Olli Maata. Maata gives Juolevi pointers on every little thing he needs, including preparation and what to expect. honestly think Maata, isn't too far off to what Juolevi can become, if not better. Juolevi, if he can add some lean muscle to his 6'2 frame can seriously be a top pairing defensman for us for years to come. Horvat leads the forwards, and Juolevi leads the D. I honestly think Olli Maata is the floor potential for Juolevi and that should be exciting for everyone. Juolevi is better offensively and Maata is a little better defensively but they are both very similar in other aspects. I see a lot of OEL in Juolevi's game. Warming up to this pick even more as time goes by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 hour ago, DeltaSwede said: I honestly think Olli Maata is the floor potential for Juolevi and that should be exciting for everyone. Juolevi is better offensively and Maata is a little better defensively but they are both very similar in other aspects. I see a lot of OEL in Juolevi's game. Warming up to this pick even more as time goes by. Is he really, though? Didn't he produces most of his points off the man-advantage, where he's pretty much fed his passes to Marner and Dvorak for the "give me" assists? You also can't ignore that he plays for one of the top offensive team, in all of major juniors and played in a stacked Finnish World Junior team, with Aho, Puljujarvvi, and Laine. I honestly don't really see his offensive ceiling that high, for the reasons above. He'd be a great defensemen, don't get me wrong, but I think his productions will top-up at 40 points. Similar to Hamhuis' production, which I see a lot of in Juolevi's game. Safe, smart, great first pass, not overly physical, nothing to fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 Juolevi split PP time with Mete. He got a lot of his points either on then PP QBing it or in transition with good breakout passes. London didnt use Juolevi as much as other D in the draft during the regular season. London was deep in all positions, including defense. Run all 4 lines and D. I bet that is a reason why his point totals were not high during the regular season. They did however use Juolevi a lot during the playoffs, same with the big 1st line. It was a reason why they dominated throughout the playoffs and finals. They used him a lot in the WJC too. He played like 30 minutes vs Canada. His point totals did increase by a bunch during playoffs, Finals and WJC. I remember the game against Brandon and he was a force in all 3 ends. Out performed Provorov by a great amount. 2 assists off the transition and one on the PP. London has some damn fine coaches. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Blömqvist said: We've come a heck of a long way in just a year. I remember at the start of last season our entire defense prospect core with a decent shot of becoming an NHLer was Frank Corrado, with unknowns and question marks in Subban, Hutton, and Tryamkin. Now look at it. Benning traded for a former 3rd overall pick Gudbranson who is already a full time top 4 defenseman. Hutton and Tryamkin are NHLers, with Hutton representing Canada and winning gold at the World Championships. Benning signed Stecher, who won the NCAA championship. He then drafted Juolevi, who won the World Junior Gold, OHL championship, and the Memorial Cup. Defense wins championships, and Benning is building a defense core that has already won them. Tanev was also on the ice in the last minute of the last game at the World Championship. Our D is looking up this fine morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksuberalles Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 4:51 PM, TheHitman said: Time to get wrecked 6-8 times a year for the next decade by Tkachuk and Puljajarvi. Great. Depends. Calgary looked beatable big time last season and EDM looks good up front but no D once again. Reinhart isnt good Defense. Odd EDM didnt pick up Juolevi or Sergachev at 4. They need defense above all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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