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Great to see these clips of OJ. Considering he’s probably a bit rusty I think he looks fine. Crisp passing, great hockey IQ, poised. A little off in some battles but that’s expected this early. Really hope he gets at least until Christmas in the minors no matter what so he can get into gear again. 

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2 hours ago, Blömqvist said:

Sautner, MacEwen, and Hamilton were all -2 as well.

Yeah well, last year Chatfield was Juolevi's partner and he inherited the big minus. So is it Juolevi or that he is always put with bad partners that miraculously recover away from him? I still don't think he is right yet. He makes great passes and sees the ice well, but man is he slow.  I am hoping its just rust, I'd love for this guy to be the real deal and live up to his potential - we need a replacement for Edler.

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1 hour ago, ItTakesAnArmy said:

Oh well, it was just a cornerstone draft pick after all, anyone could make the same mistake 3 or 4 times out of 10.

Dale Tallon had 5 1st rounders in his tenure as the Hawks GM. Toews and Kane were homeruns, Skille, Olsen and Beach were busts. So you can be wrong 60% of the time and still help build a dynasty.

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16 hours ago, JaboVancouver said:

Dale Tallon had 5 1st rounders in his tenure as the Hawks GM. Toews and Kane were homeruns, Skille, Olsen and Beach were busts. So you can be wrong 60% of the time and still help build a dynasty.

Your facts don't belong here, Jabo!

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17 hours ago, JaboVancouver said:

Dale Tallon had 5 1st rounders in his tenure as the Hawks GM. Toews and Kane were homeruns, Skille, Olsen and Beach were busts. So you can be wrong 60% of the time and still help build a dynasty.

"You have to get bad before you can be good"

Tallon was hired as GM in 2005 - demoted in 2009

He had only three top ten picks, those named, so he was 100% on top ten picks, like most GM's are. Benning has had 5 top 7 picks, all could have been and should have been sure things, especially with all the data out there available to be looked at.

 

Name one other GM over the last 10 years that has blown two top 6 picks.

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6 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said:

"You have to get bad before you can be good"

Tallon was hired as GM in 2005 - demoted in 2009

He had only three top ten picks, those named, so he was 100% on top ten picks, like most GM's are. Benning has had 5 top 7 picks, all could have been and should have been sure things, especially with all the data out there available to be looked at.

 

Name one other GM over the last 10 years that has blown two top 6 picks.

The Oilers.

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1 minute ago, dpn1 said:

The Oilers.

GM name?

Actually they haven't really blown any if you are using the "Benning standard of excellence in selections" Everyone of their picks has played in the NHL and alot of them are star players after only a couple of seasons.

They, as a team may have a couple of misses over all, those GM's were fragged for incompetence. Benning gets a raise, man this is sure a meddling owner eh?

 

Vancouver Buffalo/Arizona are now the standards for blowing picks in the last 20 years with Vancouver coming on hard if no more draft picks play more than 3/4 th liners or 6/7 dmen..

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48 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said:

"You have to get bad before you can be good"

Tallon was hired as GM in 2005 - demoted in 2009

He had only three top ten picks, those named, so he was 100% on top ten picks, like most GM's are. Benning has had 5 top 7 picks, all could have been and should have been sure things, especially with all the data out there available to be looked at.

 

Name one other GM over the last 10 years that has blown two top 6 picks.

A couple things

 

1. PIcking 5,6,7 guarantees nothing.  Scott Cullen did an excellent article on TSN a few years back showing the odds of a particular draft number becoming a top 6 winger or top 4 d man, it wasnt a sure thing to say the least.  TSN has moved their articles around Ill look for it in a bit.

 

2. Dale Tallon, you state was 100% on top 10 picks.   Really?

 

Tallon drafted Jack skille at 7 (which only bolsters my point #1)

 

https://pantherparkway.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/its-time-for-dale-tallon-and-jack-skille-to-part-ways/

 

After assuming the role of General Manager in Chicago, Dale Tallon headed into the 2005 NHL Entry Draft looking to make his first big impression on the Blackhawks’ franchise. Holding the 7th overall pick, Tallon selected Skille ahead of current NHL’ers Anze Kopitar (11th overall), Marc Staal (12th overall), Tuukaa Rask (21st overall), and T.J. Oshie (24th overall) just to name a few. While hindsight may always be 20/20, at the time no one could fault Tallon for having confidence in Skille after how well he performed for the US National Under-18 Team – scoring 55 points (24G 31A) in 54 career games.

 

So.. Jack Skille at #7 aside, .he nailed the first overall pick and the third overall pick....this is a hell of a lot easier to do than nail picks in the 5-7 range wouldnt you say?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Darius said:

A couple things

 

1. PIcking 5,6,7 guarantees nothing.  Scott Cullen did an excellent article on TSN a few years back showing the odds of a particular draft number becoming a top 6 winger or top 4 d man, it wasnt a sure thing to say the least.  TSN has moved their articles around Ill look for it in a bit.

 

2. Dale Tallon, you state was 100% on top 10 picks.   Really?

 

Tallon drafted Jack skille at 7 (which only bolsters my point #1)

 

https://pantherparkway.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/its-time-for-dale-tallon-and-jack-skille-to-part-ways/

 

After assuming the role of General Manager in Chicago, Dale Tallon headed into the 2005 NHL Entry Draft looking to make his first big impression on the Blackhawks’ franchise. Holding the 7th overall pick, Tallon selected Skille ahead of current NHL’ers Anze Kopitar (11th overall), Marc Staal (12th overall), Tuukaa Rask (21st overall), and T.J. Oshie (24th overall) just to name a few. While hindsight may always be 20/20, at the time no one could fault Tallon for having confidence in Skille after how well he performed for the US National Under-18 Team – scoring 55 points (24G 31A) in 54 career games.

 

So.. Jack Skille at #7 aside, .he nailed the first overall pick and the third overall pick....this is a hell of a lot easier to do than nail picks in the 5-7 range wouldn't you say?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PIcking 5,6,7 guarantees nothing.  Scott Cullen did an excellent article on TSN a few years back

 

A "few years back" (15 or so) before the internet, youtube and all the other social media, GM's still would have "holes" in their information, now they can find out what is happening off the ice as well.

Look up the 5,6 and 7 picks 2011 to 2017 - only 10 top ten picks are iffy, Benning has two and the only player to not play a single NHL game. Virtanen is one of the iffy one's as well, so over those years Benning has 20% of ALL failures. No other GM comes close.

 

 

Just now, Alflives said:

OJ is looking great in Utica.  His first pass is elite. 

He is getting a huge amount of PP time, 1rst pass elite? Problem with those clips is they are not showing other dmen, he looks slow and out of position quite often. There is absolutely nothing that makes him stand out offensively.

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