JM_ Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Rick Blight said: For anyone that does not know the Jack Johnson story. https://www.tsn.ca/bankrupt-nhler-in-fight-with-parents-over-family-home-1.441730 wow I wasn't aware of the extent of it. I can't imagine treating my daughter like this. No kidding the guy just wants a decent contract for his last deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Id sooner JB wait and try to land a bigger fish next year. OEL or EK. JJ is a little overated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Pass on him at this stage of his career and what the Canucks are doing next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Can see the Jets inquiring. While he likely wouldn’t extend with them, he’ll get decent minutes for sure and could see his point production increase on their team. While not top pairing minutes (Morrissey has that covered), he’d be competing against Kulikov on the LH side on the second pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 hours ago, Rush17 said: Crazy. comes out when Torts faces his old team. Don't push me! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 hours ago, Drew.Doughty said: Drafted #3 overall. Never lived up to his potential. Still a solid #3-4 defensemen. Gudbranson or Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Monty said: Can see the Jets inquiring. While he likely wouldn’t extend with them, he’ll get decent minutes for sure and could see his point production increase on their team. While not top pairing minutes (Morrissey has that covered), he’d be competing against Kulikov on the LH side on the second pairing. Oooh I'd like that. I wonder what it would cost the Jets though. KC builds a lot from within, and hasn't really bitten on trade deadline fodder before, so I'm curious to see what he'd be willing to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 11 hours ago, The Lock said: If I recall, it was both his parents. They were basically "living it up" and buying whatever they wanted. Basically, his parents still were on his bank account at the time. They also used his money is some very bad/shady investments, which all went on the flop and he lost all his savings due to it, which is why he had to claim bankrupcy back a few years ago. They litterally lost ALL of his money. Dicks don't even describe them. The fact they blew their sons financial fortune is beyond disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 hours ago, luckylager said: No Why? Because Huttons barely a bottom pair defenceman, and Johnson's a solid #3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Davathor said: Because Huttons barely a bottom pair defenceman, and Johnson's a solid #3-4 Hutton is a lot younger, with upside. Plus, Hutton doesn’t come with JJ’s baggage. Personally, I’d steer clear of JJ for any price. I’d much rather keep Hutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 The arrival of Tortorella has pretty much coincided with the downturn in Johnson's career. The year before Torture-fella - Johnson was a 40 pt D who played a two way role - handled hard minutes but also was a fixture on the powerplay. Tortorella arrived and his production dropped to 14 pts. Seth Jones also arrived - and Ryan Murray was also healthy and commanding more opportunity. Last year, factor in Werenksi and Johnson became more exclusively a shutdown defenseman - who produced pretty well considering his role - 5 g, 23 pts is pretty solid in his role. This year - same story, but with declining production - once again handling high dzone starts relative to the rest of the blueline, penalty killing and scarcely seeing the ice 5 on 4. 7 pts through 46 games - it's understandable that he doesn't see a future in Columbus. Both Johnson and Savard have a fair bit more upside than their production indicates, but Columbus has the luxury of one of if not the best group of young defensemen in the NHL - so these guys wind up on the shutdown side of their two way game. A nice 'problem' to have if you're the Bluejackets coaching staff or management team, but as one of these players, not optimal for their market values or future. In Johnson's circumstances, it's really understandable that he'd favour the opportunity to play more of a two way role. It's got to be tough to leave a team after that long and when they're trending towards contention, but perhaps he feels the writing is on the wall where Tortorella, his role and hist team's assets are concerned. He's 31 - he's heading into possibly one of his last opportunities to get a decent market value extension - maybe not that surprising that he'd want to move on - and perhaps he's not too keen on being a rented mule in Tortorella's formation. Maybe a move to Tampa would work - who could return a serviceable defenseman - perhaps a hockey trade for Coburn, who could fill the shutdown role in Columbus while Johnson might have the opportunity to step up in Hedman's absence.... who knows if Stevie Y would want to let go of Coburn and his solid underlying numbers in a shutdown role, but Johnson does bring some versatility and could probably produce in Tampa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 They’ll be looking for rental C I’m guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 14 hours ago, The Lock said: If I recall, it was both his parents. They were basically "living it up" and buying whatever they wanted. Basically, his parents still were on his bank account at the time. So brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: They also used his money is some very bad/shady investments, which all went on the flop and he lost all his savings due to it, which is why he had to claim bankrupcy back a few years ago. They litterally lost ALL of his money. Dicks don't even describe them. The fact they blew their sons financial fortune is beyond disgusting. It's one thing to expect your superstar child to "repay" you plus interest for all those early morning hockey practices, the expensive gears and lessons, plus moving the whole family for a chance at a hockey career. Not unreasonable if JJ bought his family a beach home, a fancy car and a steady income stream for his parents to retire.... that's only a couple of millions. But his parents took out those high-interest loans on future income. A couple of hundred thousands probably ends up costing Jack Johnson like millions. As for shady investments.... how stupid do you have to be to know almost nothing about investments and trust some random scrub? I mean it's not hard to just search online about a well known bank like say.... RBC (any bank will work) and their stocks pays out like 4% annually... so with like $10 million, it pays out $400,000 gross dividend per year.... and that's a lot of money IMO. As for Jack Johnson... he probably have 5 good years left in him. A good solid 2nd pairing and 2nd unit PPQB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Was never a fan of the guy since the WJHC but hopefully he gets moved to a good situation. Definitely can empathize with his off-ice issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The difference between Johnson and Gudbranson is Johnson's skating ability. He may fit better in an up tempo style that Green is trying to adopt. On the other side, skating is the first thing to go with age, so you don't sign a guy over 30 for term who has that as his best asset. A contract kind of in the Del Zotto range under $4 million for 3 years would be all you would want to give out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 13/01/2018 at 2:22 PM, billabong said: They’ll be looking for rental C I’m guessing Maybe they want eriksson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If Columbus trades him will they be interested in gudbranson to fill that hole if we decide to part with him? I feel like guddy would mesh very well in that system he’s a torts kinda player, I’ll be super sad the day we lose him tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said: Maybe they want eriksson Granlund ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Kerr Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Would anyone do Vanek for JJ? Would Columbus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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