Chris12345 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Do you think the Ducks have two Vezina goalies with Gibson and Boyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Tonight was Adam Gaudette's 'I'm gonna show you my stuff' party... he showed what his potential ceiling is. Great hustle, great playmaking, great shooting. The stay in Utica and playing on the first line there has done a world of good for his confidence and offensive instincts. What we are seeing is a player who is a clinch to be the Canuck's 3rd line center... but I'm betting he can be a player who can score and put up points like a 2nd line center. I am not a guy who has dissed Sutter at any point, I think he is a valuable hockey player... but right now Gaudette is showing the team Sutter could be traded this summer. Keep Beagle, he is the ideal 4th line center. Maybe we can get a good scoring winger for Sutter. Another tip of the hat to Jim Benning... yeah he slipped on a banana a bit with the goalie situation in the last week, but overall you have to like his instincts for picking winners in the draft. And Gaudette is a winner... he will be playing for the Canucks for a long time. With Gaudette showing what he can do, the Canucks are looking to be one the strongest teams in the league in the center position in the next few years... which is HUGE. Been saying this all season? He played under 11 mins... We need to trade Sutter to make room for Gaudette... Really hope Jim can move Sutter ad trade deadline.. Don't think he will get big return like Canuck fans think? Sutter = retain 800,000 of salary to contending cap team----- 2nd rounder and prospect in return... Tanev --- Return --- young D man and 2nd rounder Goldy ----- Young D man in return Schaller ----- 6th rounder ==No room for this guy-- ====MacEwen 6'4, plays better and will fill spot This Canuck team don't give up...So exciting to watch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Its not just the total travel miles but the type of travel vs games they're dealt which imo has WAY more impact on potential injury issues. I wish I could find a better source for this graph but it still conveys the issue - the league screwed us yet again in the scheduling despite the recent suggestion in sports media that we have an easier schedule since the all-star break. We play way more rested teams and play teams after we have little rest than any other team. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/the-18-19-schedule-tired-rested-games.2516113/ Wow, thats an eye opener. And hockey operations are fully aware of this. Are the same teams favoured the same in past years? Do the Canucks play the rested teams while tired on back to backs as a norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, wildcam said: Been saying this all season? He played under 11 mins... We need to trade Sutter to make room for Gaudette... Really hope Jim can move Sutter ad trade deadline.. Don't think he will get big return like Canuck fans think? Sutter = retain 800,000 of salary to contending cap team----- 2nd rounder and prospect in return... Tanev --- Return --- young D man and 2nd rounder Goldy ----- Young D man in return Schaller ----- 6th rounder ==No room for this guy-- ====MacEwen 6'4, plays better and will fill spot This Canuck team don't give up...So exciting to watch.. This is not the trade deadline to get excited about: Sutter is playing with 1 good shoulder and now a groin injury, he's not going anywhere at the TDL. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they shut him down for the year next week. Jim has said he's not going to move Edler or Tanev. Goldy isn't going to get you a quality young d in return right now. Schaller? I could actually see him put on waivers before the TDL to see if anyone takes him for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Gaudette, excellent trade bait if packaged for a top dman, say Trouba or one Peg's others. Some teams seem to be able o draft dmen that step right into the league after being drafted and make a difference. Lots of other younger centers that maybe in his class, Lind, Osavitch (C/W) other picks/prospects) future draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The irony is prior to playing in Vancouver Sutter hardly ever got injured. Once again, I am questioning the Canucks medical staff, and trainers. Because the usual grocery list of injuries each year, should trigger someone looking into this. Teams like San Jose, LA, and Arizona has just as much travel. Do they have the same level of injuries we get? I have been thinking this for years. There is a significant difference in quality of training and medical staff across all sports. Some teams tend to get way more injuries than others. I firmly believe the Canucks medical and training staff is less than mediocre when it comes to preventing and treating injuries. As we all likely know from personal experience, the quality of training and help in recovering from injury can vary wildly from practitioner to practitioner. The Canucks would probably benefit from a new approach. After all, Roger Takahashi has been the strength and conditioning coach for 16 years with this team. I'm sure he's a great fella but maybe it's time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Fig said: Easy does it. 48 hours ago the guy was in the minor league. Pump, pump, pump ….. PUMP THOSE BRAKES! come on he's gonna be ring of honour for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: This is not the trade deadline to get excited about: Sutter is playing with 1 good shoulder and now a groin injury, he's not going anywhere at the TDL. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they shut him down for the year next week. Jim has said he's not going to move Edler or Tanev. Goldy isn't going to get you a quality young d in return right now. Schaller? I could actually see him put on waivers before the TDL to see if anyone takes him for free. Trade Sutter when he is healthy...Young guys Gaudette is a big up grade on Sutter...Retain money anything time to move on Sutter.. Fine with Schaller waiver ... Goldy -- Young D prospect with potential like Goldy .... Goldy does have potential, maybe a new team might do this? Sometimes players need a change.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The irony is prior to playing in Vancouver Sutter hardly ever got injured. Once again, I am questioning the Canucks medical staff, and trainers. Because the usual grocery list of injuries each year, should trigger someone looking into this. Teams like San Jose, LA, and Arizona has just as much travel. Do they have the same level of injuries we get? Whole lot of factors IMO. One, you have to take quality of team in to consideration. Sutter's had 1-2 (hard) minutes more ATOI here than in PIT/CAR and with less help around him/arguably harder assignments due to it (no Crosby/Malkin to take on some of the match up load against other team's top lines). Then there's the added factor that poorer teams (which we've been) tend to have the puck less which means more chasing, even harder minutes, more grind on the body, more tired to make mental mistakes/over exert yourself etc, etc. Then there's the travel/schedule issues noted above by @Fanuck, at least somewhat dictated by our geography (though the NHL could certainly do more to help minimize that...). Some plain bad luck as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If, big if, with Horvat and Pettersson being 1-2, Gaudette could be the kind of guy who we can build a package around to get a stud d-man the same way the Sharks got Karlsson. Something to ponder at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Oh man...it’s only been one game, slow down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 We definitely should be trading Sutter for what ever we can get plus the cap space for a scoring winger and improved D. dont know how long he will be out with the injury though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The irony is prior to playing in Vancouver Sutter hardly ever got injured. Once again, I am questioning the Canucks medical staff, and trainers. Because the usual grocery list of injuries each year, should trigger someone looking into this. Teams like San Jose, LA, and Arizona has just as much travel. Do they have the same level of injuries we get? So are you suggesting that the Canucks medical staff is directly responsible for Sutter's groin problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Pettersson Horvat Gaudette Beagle Madden The future looks bright at centre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 It fits the new NHL where successful teams have three lines that can score, rather than a 3rd line solely for checking and matchups. Hopefully he can be a consistent player that solidifies himself in that roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, wildcam said: Trade Sutter when he is healthy...Young guys Gaudette is a big up grade on Sutter...Retain money anything time to move on Sutter.. Fine with Schaller waiver ... Goldy -- Young D prospect with potential like Goldy .... Goldy does have potential, maybe a new team might do this? Sometimes players need a change.. to me Sutter is a guy a bit like Tanev, worth more to us in a youth development phase than he is on the open market. I'd prefer to have Sutter and Gaudette together so AG can learn all he can from Sutsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Classic CDC. One good game and the guy is automatically an elite second line center. Gaudette has had maybe 4 good games all year, 3 being in his last 3 and hopefully he keeps that trend going but come on. This was the first game he had where he looked overall complete. He's trending upwards hopefully be let's just keep the expectations tempered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Shift-4 said: No kidding It's one &^@#ing game. Horvat took years to show he belonged And Horvat honestly still has a way to go defensively. Still only 23 and should shore up his defensive errors over time. Gaudette looks nice right now but still too early to tell. Promising game yesterday and it felt nice to get some production out of a center not named Petey or Bo, but a ways to go to pencil him in as a 'second line center'. He now has 5 points in his last 10 games playing less than 10 minutes per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo fan Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 let's give this a couple years and see where it goes - horse before the cart - old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastresort318 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Could Gaudette become a second line centre? Sure he could, but we need to pump the breaks on him being on Horvat level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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