wildwood12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 They brought in John Tavares, paid him top dollar. Had to pay his buddies too. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Almost same cap hit as Nylander. Dubas for GM of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, Borvat said: Wikipedia: You can't make this stuff up. I guess he is correcting for past mistakes, and now is making player-friendly deals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Borvat said: This needs to be factored into the next CBA. Canadian teams/markets being discriminated against and disrespected yet again Definitely the playing field has become terribly out of wack for the US teams. Most (almost all) state taxes are way less than CDN cities. The lopsided $ value is also bad; considering the owners pay the players in US $, but their revenue is in CDN $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: So, do people still think Boeser is over paid? I sure the hell don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Not that I am sticking up for Dubas but Marner is clearly the better player and he signed for 6 years not 3, so Dubas bought 2 years of free agency. Point's next contract is going to be a minimum of $9 million per and could be a lot higher. In fact after taxes it could be higher than Marner's contract. So although Dubas did overpay for Marner that contract won't look as bad 3 years from now when the new TV deal kicks in, the new CBA kicks in , the money comes in from the expansion draft and all these guys are up for re-negotiation. The only downside with Marner is that he can walk in 6 years versus all these other guys can sign long term deals and stay with their clubs for a longer period. But given the fact that Matthews is unrestricted the year prior to Marner and will probably walk, the Leafs should have enough money kicking around to keep their hometown boy. The real mistake of Dubas was signing Matthews to that 5 year deal at almost the same salary as McDavid. The Nylander contract is actually better than the Matthews contract. As well Dubas did well with Kapanen, Kerfoot and Johnsson. I like the Tavares contract as well as he's a Leaf until he is 34. Toronto should have done bridge deal like this, it allows them to be ultra competitive for next three years and Point doesnt walk in to UFA status at the end of the contract. 11 million was very high for 6 years. When Rielly's contract is up they are screwed. Edit: actually Reilly is the only Dman signed past this year and still has three years. Will be plug city the next few years there. Edited September 23, 2019 by Bure_Pavel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Clock Tower Prison said: Yes. About 210K less. But he’s likely taking home a million more ... TB gets extra help with no state taxes - this contract is still a good one, but in TO would have to be around 8 million to compare apples with apples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 His qualifying offer is close to 10mil per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, CanuckinEdm said: His qualifying offer is close to 10mil per. Actually 9 million. Which is absolutely fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Definitely the playing field has become terribly out of wack for the US teams. Most (almost all) state taxes are way less than CDN cities. The lopsided $ value is also bad; considering the owners pay the players in US $, but their revenue is in CDN $. Haha but that adds value to players playing in Canadian cities - get a bump a bit bump in their paycheques, the owners are the ones taking it. But not TO, check out how much it costs to go to a game there. Also once you add the jock tax the Canadian cities fair pretty well with most US teams. Vegas, TB, and Florida have a clear advantage, Dallas too but not quite as much. Plus the teams in TB, Florida’s division as they don’t pay taxes when they visit those cities...at least the US teams. It’s a bit convoluted - they pay taxes in each state they play in - so only the home games with no state taxes add up. This theme that Canadian teams get boned as a result are false - the California and NY teams are actually the ones that pay the most taxes when everything is added up - in fact Vancouver and the Alberta teams are in the top third of best taxes overall. MTL and TO arent far off from the bottom - BUT they also aren’t far of from the top third either. Only Vegas, Florida teams and Dallas are getting the breaks. It amounts to about 10% more then the bottom teams and 6% more then the ones close to them. It’s enough to consider changes no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, theo5789 said: Actually 9 million. Which is absolutely fair. his last season under this contract is 9mil so a QO needs to be 5 or 10% more does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, CanuckinEdm said: his last season under this contract is 9mil so a QO needs to be 5 or 10% more does it not? No. The QO will be 9M because the last year salary is over 1M (as per capfriendly). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: But this isn't how Dubas did it. That's because they're not geniuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 That's an excellent contract for Tampa. Wish we could offer players that kind of tax break to further entice them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, CanuckinEdm said: his last season under this contract is 9mil so a QO needs to be 5 or 10% more does it not? Bumping up the % is only if it's below a certain dollar amount. Otherwise it's just whatever the last season salary is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Wow, Boeser signs at an incredible bargain, and now Point. Is Point making less than Nylander? Just about half of Matthews or Marner too. Glad to hear TBay got Point for such a good cap number. Less chance for the Loser Leafs to win. Ha Ha Ha!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Tampa does it again. Signing players below their market value. That's 60% Marner money with Marner level production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Coconuts said: That's an excellent contract for Tampa. Wish we could offer players that kind of tax break to further entice them. this is something that needs balancing. When you get teams like the Panthers with 12 fans enticing players to not play in bigger markets something is wrong with the system. It would be pretty easy to calculate and effective cap balancing percentage to apply to each team. But that doink Bettman won't ever do this. I'm so happy we booed his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think it's clear by now that 3-year bridge deals aren't comparable to 6 or 8-year deals that buy UFA years. You can't compare this deal one-to-one with the Marner or Nylander deals. Apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Coconuts said: That's an excellent contract for Tampa. Wish we could offer players that kind of tax break to further entice them. Tampa is also a cup favourite and Hawks use to sign good players for a mill or what ever spare change they had.... I get the tax break is there but the lightening also have a good team and we did the same with burrows when he was lighting it up and he was on one of the best contracts in the nhl at the time.... when your on a winner , you take less money to stay on a winner.... its all about the cup in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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