[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs. Vegas Golden Knights | August 29th, 2020 | 6:45pm PT, SNP | R2G3

[UKNuck96]

18 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said:

You dont, but the BLM company is marxist.

I would suggest you read some political philosophy and understand what Marx and Engels were writing about and the societal values that created it. 
 

then go look at the russian revolution and civil war and how the principle of Marxism was used in Leninism and Stalinism 

 

BLM is not maxist by a long way. Analogies could be brought between workers conditions in the Victorian era and black communities in the USA, especially the use of prison labour and exploitation through cheap wages.

 

however they are not clambering for the dissolution of capitalist structures, more than wanting their share of the pie. 

[-SN-]

Imagine boycotting hockey because you're against human rights. 

[Kevin Biestra]

4 minutes ago, Baratheon said:

It's good to see exactly who some of you are and what you're about. No reason to value the opinions of the ignorant! 

 

I'm not sure who you are talking about in the thread, but wisdom is being open to the possibility that one is himself or herself ignorant.

 

In discussions such as these, I have found that more often than not it is people on one side that aren't willing to have their views or ideas stand up to scrutiny or questioning.

 

I don't know what your views are on any of this, but a lot of people who claim to be experts in these topics would be wise to consider the possibility that they are the ones that don't get it.

 

So whatever your views may be, hopefully you'll have the confidence in them to have them stand up to discussion on the battlefield of ideas.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Kevin Biestra

[-Vintage Canuck-]

“I stand behind our players. There has to be change and taking action is a way to make change. To see our players today, try to make change, makes you proud as a coach.” - Green
 

[xereau]

I suggest people give this a solid read.

 

https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2020-ok.pdf

 

And ask yourself: who is manipulating you, and why?

[Hairy Kneel]

USA politics is a complete CESSPOOL. 

Unraveling the BLM scenarios means dealing with the dog whistles coming from the top. And Rumps racist base. This situation isn't even going to start to change til Rumps gone. 

[Qwags]

10 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said:

I care. I love hockey and like them, I also don't like being force fed a narrative during sports. 

"I don't like my safe space being breached by hard reality." 

 

Hockey is inconsequential. 

[GB5]

The clearest way to show what the rule of law means to us in everyday life is to recall what has happened when there is no rule of law. Dwight D. Eisenhower
 

[PhillipBlunt]

40 minutes ago, hockeygod77 said:

ALL LIVES MATTER...WHATS WRONG IS THE IMAGE FROM THE PAST

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I LIKE ALL COLOURS BUT WHY IS IT THAT YOU CANT FEEL SAFE IF YOU GO TO NEW YORK IN AN ALLEY OR DETROIT OR CHICAGO

Partially because they’re massive cities where millions of people live, many in extreme poverty. The desperation of living in such a way will have mental and psychological effects on people. Combine that with being viewed as secondary or inferior and you have millions of people living in a near constant state of fear and stress. 

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..WHY IS IT INTIMDATING TO BE AROUND DIFFERENT COLOURS...

It only is if you view it that way. In Ireland, Caucasians actively oppressed other Caucasians, looking at them as inferior. Not to mention Aushwitz and Dakow. 
 

It’s a learned behavior. As well, as the fact that we’re all mammals. It’s been proven that chimpanzees experience vastly increased levels of anxiety and stress when they have to remember more than 50-100 different faces. Mammals aren’t designed for life in large (insect like) formations, like the average modern city. Humans are also apes and therefore do experience similar issues. That being said, every human being alive is the exact same species. 

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SO ALL PARTIES NEED TO JUST BRUSH UP ON LIFE SKILLS AND THE COPS NEED TO TRAIN BETTER IN KNOWING MENTAL HEALTH...

Everyone could brush up on their life skills, for sure. Everyone could listen more, as there is a tendency in these ideologically charges times to prefer the comfort of an echo chamber, and this is true for the entire spectrum. 
 

I know a few police officers and they agree with your point 100%. Mental health is still the greatest threat to modern society. It knows no bounds, including cops. Some officers shouldn’t be cops because they are intrinsically violent and racist, and their behavior is tolerated and protected by the blue wall. Being a cop is a hard job, but being a cop that actually serves and protects the entire populace of their region is even harder. The good ones don’t get paid enough, and the bad ones get paid way too much. 

Edited August 27, 2020 by PhillipBlunt

[BoKnows]

5 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said:

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

So we shouldn’t support black lives because of her economic views?  I’m just about as ani-marxist/communist/socialist as they get but this is a stretch for me dude.

[Baratheon]

1 minute ago, Kevin Biestra said:

 

I'm not sure who you are talking about in the thread, but wisdom is being open to the possibility that one is himself or herself ignorant.

 

In discussions such as these, I have found that more often than not it is people on one side that aren't willing to have their views or ideas stand up to scrutiny or questioning.

 

I don't know what your views are on any of this, but a lot of people who claim to be experts in these topics would be wise to consider the possibility that they are the ones that don't get it.

 

So whatever your views may be, hopefully you'll have the confidence in them to have them stand up to discussion on the battlefield of ideas.

 

 

I know that even if some of these people are factually 100 percent correct, they are still showing zero empathy and instead post inflammatory comments.

 

Some people here care about what's going on and others want to use this as an opportunity to vent at people.  It is obvious who falls in to which categories.  Comments speak for themselves.

[Petey40]

Hey on the plus side we get a 5 O’clock Saturday game now! Which leaves exactly 8 hours to pre-drink before the game 

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Petey40

[Jack Fig]

46 minutes ago, NeilColville said:

I am all for the protest of racial injustice. But in no way do I support the Black Lives Matter. They have done more harm and destruction than good. I will probably be cancelled for this comment because the left can’t handle anyone who disagrees with them. 

I agree. I think BLM are setting race relations back a long way. It's a very disingenuous, destructive movement. That's what it was supposed to be. Trusting minds are being played. It's all bad, and as always, blacks are going to pay the biggest price. 

[Robert_G]

17 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

 

Haha I don’t think anyone cares. Seeya! 

Actually the NHL might care....if people boycott like they are the NBA. NBA ratings are way down. Lower ratings mean less $ for TV contacts....add in no ticket sales right now. The NHL should not be caving into political agendas right now. They need every viewer they can get.

[xereau]

5 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said:

I would suggest you read some political philosophy and understand what Marx and Engels were writing about and the societal values that created it. 
 

then go look at the russian revolution and civil war and how the principle of Marxism was used in Leninism and Stalinism 

 

BLM is not maxist by a long way. Analogies could be brought between workers conditions in the Victorian era and black communities in the USA, especially the use of prison labour and exploitation through cheap wages.

 

however they are not clambering for the dissolution of capitalist structures, more than wanting their share of the pie. 

"We actually do have an ideological frame... we are trained Marxists."
- Patrisse Khan-Cullors, Co-Founder of BLM

 

 

[Chicken.]

4 minutes ago, xereau said:

I suggest people give this a solid read.

 

https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2020-ok.pdf

 

And ask yourself: who is manipulating you, and why?

Nice article - from UBC to boot - makes you think

 

Pretty long so I just skimmed to the conclusion will post here for others too lazy to click. 

 

[PhillipBlunt]

6 minutes ago, xereau said:

I suggest people give this a solid read.

 

https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2020-ok.pdf

 

And ask yourself: who is manipulating you, and why?

Coles notes?  I got through three pages. 

[Maniwaki Canuck]

Since a lot of posters use criminality as a justification for the cops blowing people away, what about white collar crime that somehow never gets punished? Particularly the banksters and hedge fund managers who crashed the economy in 2008, throwing millions of people out of their homes and destroying their life savings.  Plenty of rules broken there and absolutely catastrophic consequences across the whole society, 50% of which now lives in poverty.  Yet those criminals were never even charged, let alone convicted, down in the Land of the Free.  Conclusion:  laws are selectively enforced to the benefit of the powerful.

[WZRD]

56 minutes ago, Qwags said:

How does one go from "I don't want to be murdered by police and have them be unpunished or free of consequence" to " it's all a ploy by the fascist-marxists?" (lol) 

 

How does one equate the two?

The BLM organization is a known Marxist organization; they openly admit to it. 

Edited August 27, 2020 by WZRD

[TheNewGM]

There is a short Marxist manifesto you could read, and its underlying principals are actually the only value which could save modern humanity. But I know reading a couple hundred pages is hard . So just keep being ignorant. Its a fact that real communism was never done. Never even tried, by a "normal" society.