JeremyCuddles Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Qwags said: I'm far more angry about Tanev leaving than Marky. Marky deserved that contract, plain and simple. I'm just glad we didn't give it to him. Tanev, on the other hand, was the core of our D. Our D wasn't anything special, and now it just got a whole lot worse. Especially if Barrie signs. Seriously, what is this? Hughes - Myers Edler - Juolevi Benn - Chatfield +Barrie Maybe we should wait to see if this is actually what we are going into the season with before overreacting. It's literally day 1 of free agency. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 If you watch the JB interview on the Canuck home page he says Tanev is sleeping on the decision and he expects to hear in the morning if he is signing back with us. He also says his first priority is to sign back our own guys. Tanev signed with Calgary shortly after. JB is having a rough time with this off season so far. We need a good right D signing and it is not Barrie. Hes a smaller guy and we need some size. Petro...do us a favour! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, CanuckGAME said: Yeah no **** money was more important. The Canucks probably insulted him with a 3 year 5 million dollar contract. He just made 36 million bucks. Why does this team throw cash at bums no questions asked, but a guy like markstrom who is loved by his teammates and has been our MVP for 2 seasons gets left out to dry... Why spend 7 years developing markstrom into a vazina caliber goalie, only to let him walk right as he's entering his prime to a division rival. Oh right because we have a rookie goalie who may have the potential to become what Markstom is already. On goalies... yeah, it surprises me that teams don’t primarily rotate in flavour-of-the day UFA studs and duds for that position like a revolving door on the back of an old salon. Player Development of that area of the game, at that level, seems like a business risk assessment need to me anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertuzzi44fan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Destroy our 3rd line by removing our only good 3rd liner. But if it's to get Savard outta CBJ I suppose it's okay. I'd really hope they could get more from him than potentially one season of Savard. I actually think Motte could play 3rd line,he seems to be a go getter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Lots of mixed feelings with Flames fans and this deal. Now if they pick up Tofolli as well, the Flames have to be &^@#ing with us eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureFilm Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 As much as I love Tanev, we would have lived to regret the 4 year term esp with his unfortunate injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Someone on CP posted this, doesnt shine a good light on Tanev. I know tanev brought a lot of intangibles and was a warrior....but we need an upgrade on that position. Quote CF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 49.46%Hughes w/o Tanev: 57.70%Change: +8.24%FF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 49.65%Hughes w/o Tanev: 56.02%Change: +6.37%SF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 48.03%Hughes w/o Tanev: 55.56%Change: +7.53%SCF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 47.52%Hughes w/o Tanev: 57.35%Change: +9.83%HDCF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 49.64%Hughes w/o Tanev: 56.79%Change: +7.15%GF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 46.03%Hughes w/o Tanev: 59.18%Change: +13.15%xGF%:Hughes w/ Tanev: 50.22%Hughes w/o Tanev: 57.22%Change: +7.00% 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, bertuzzi44fan said: I actually think Motte could play 3rd line,he seems to be a go getter. Different wings. Jake and Motter could play 3rd line together. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCerebral1 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 It sucks to see Chris leave, however at 4 years, that's a little rich on the term. He's going to be missed for sure, but I think Benning sticking to his guns at a 2 year term, was fine. It really stings, but it is what it is. Go get Erik Gustafsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, bertuzzi44fan said: Lol,Toffoli has much more hockey sense than Virt...only thing he has going for him is his wheels. Virtanen reminds me of Nichushkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bitter Melon said: Benning might be expecting to have multiple rookies on the back end this year. Pick your combination of Rafferty/Juolevi/Woo/Chatfield/Brisebois/whoever else might surprise at camp. Utonen's eyes are as wide as saucers right now. He senses the opportunity of a lifetime. (Maybe JJ's too!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 calgarypuck is on the fence about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I think we're still 2 seasons away from possibly entering our window, so I'm fine with the moves today. Losing Markstrom and Tanev shouldn't hurt us 2 years from now. Benning needs to plan for our window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: On goalies... yeah, it surprises me that teams don’t primarily rotate in flavour-of-the day UFA studs and duds for that position like a revolving door on the back of an old salon. Player Development of that area of the game, at that level, seems like a business risk assessment need to me anyways. I'm not worried about the Canucks in goal tbh, with a likely compressed season going with a tandem makes a lot of sense. I'm more concerned with what we replaced Tanev with, I wish Woo was a couple years older. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 Jumped in. Read the dramatic posts. Got a bit upset. A bit sad. Then shrugged my shoulders. I've watched this team from the Islanders series where the only reason we were fighting the dynasty was a guy we called King Richard. I watched us trade Neely and hated it. I wept as we kicked Linden to the curb. Bure. Naslund. Bertuzzi. Hansen. Butcher. McLean. Sopel. I've watched literally countless players I've loved, grown up with; watched bleed for this team go on to other teams. Some flashed out, faded away. Others won cups and it hurt to see them succeed. Ask days end, Tanev came in during the 2011 season and was a great player. Warrior. Not a playmaker, point getter but when healthy dependable. He will join the list of players I had to watch put on another jersey for. All of them I wished well. Tanev had promised he'd sleep on it apparently. But the term was the reason he went elsewhere. Not just anywhere, but to bloody Calgary. I'm sad for that. I'm hoping he doesn't find the success others did, especially in that jersey while he still plays. But I won't sit and cry about it. I won't blame Benning. Management. Agents or anything but the current economy. When the dust settles. We had an offer rumoured for him, that would have carried through the next 2 seasons that paid about the same as Calgary offered. He chose his team and made bank out of it. The current economic state of the league; being a gate heavy revenue league at that, is scary. A flat cap this year, potential retraction next year even with a new tv deal and expansion team dollars pouring in. Calgary and teams like them have absolutely screwed themselves with signings like these today. In 2 seasons when the cap has essentially stayed flat, risen marginally or in fact possibly retracted; the Canucks will have tens of millions in cap space, with barely $43 million spent on contracts in 2 seasons. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks Yes Benning is handcuffed with some ugly bottom 6 contracts but so are a ton of other teams. They are also saddled with contracts on front line players on the decline, middle 6 role players, declining defensemen and more. The fact is Benning extended a rumoured offer and it was turned down and that might honestly be the single best thing for the team moving forward. Less can be more. We have the supposed depth of rookies to get through a season where we will be a bubble team; or in the event we suck, we have all of our picks. We also have options for the teams that are waking up to the economic future of the next season to take on players they have no choice but to trade for nothing or let walk. Whatever the case. I am looking long term. Tanev might only have a few good seasons left. Markstrom might only have a few good seasons left; or they could win multiple awards. C'est la vie. Look past the angst and HF style griping and look at the overall big picture. The Canucks over the next 2 years are in great position financially for expiring contracts; in a flat cap world we should be able to extend our stars to great contracts. The team has a bright future that Tanev chose not to be a part of. To quote a former Canuck I really cared nothing for; it is what it is. 3 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, J-23 said: Lots of mixed feelings with Flames fans and this deal. Now if they pick up Tofolli as well, the Flames have to be &^@#ing with us eh? What are they saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just when you thought the defense couldn't possibly get worse, we now have zero top 4 defensemen on the right side. Looks like I'm going to start drinking again when we sign Barrie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertuzzi44fan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, HKSR said: What are they saying? They want to feel the sun shine on them,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, shazzam said: I think we're still 2 seasons away from possibly entering our window, so I'm fine with the moves today. Losing Markstrom and Tanev shouldn't hurt us 2 years from now. Benning needs to plan for our window. Tanev wouldn't be part of that solution 2 years from now lol. Our Defense needs a serious overhaul before those kids are truly ready to compete. Both moves today are a step in the right direction in regards to age,future and Cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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