Popular Post CanucksCountry Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/there-was-alcohol-involved/ at the 2:50 mark Friedman talks about it. May go no where but will be interesting if it does. Oh and Vegas no take backs Schmidt's ours now Edited October 14, 2020 by CanucksCountry 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boest-er Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 What would be the supposed penalties for Vegas if this goes forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) NHL forced TRADE: Chayka & his lackey-cohorts to the gamblin' desert Lost Vegan F.O. to the Cacti-tangled desert Just desserts! ...with shifting sand dunes beneath sheets of frozen ponds..these are the threads of our lives. Edited October 14, 2020 by Nuxfanabroad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 41 minutes ago, Boest-er said: What would be the supposed penalties for Vegas if this goes forward? Probably a draft pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sweathog said: Probably a draft pick Benning only got a small fine for his two charges of tampering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Benning only got a small fine for his two charges of tampering Depends what level it was on. Talking about other players is one thing, if they actively tried to discuss contract details prior to when they should have that’s different. Be interesting to see what comes of this, although I expect not much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rekker Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 Acquiring AP as a free UFA cost them a boat load of cap and Nate Schmidt. I would giggle if it cost them a high pick for tampering as well. Really easy to dislike the Knights. 1 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) My guess is Vegas made it clear to teams they were trying to dump players to that the deals were pending Pietrangelo signing. That is technically tampering to let a player know you are going to make a big push for them even if it is kinda indirectly. Edited October 14, 2020 by peaches5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It'd be funny they did and Vegas lost assets Still not giving Schmidt back &^@# Vegas 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 oh please be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, peaches5 said: My guess is Vegas made it clear to teams they were trying to dump players to that the deals were pending Pietrangelo signing. That is technically tampering to let a player know you are going to make a big push for them even if it is kinda indirectly. How was Pietrangelo supposed to know that VGK was the one trying to make space to sign him, and not the other teams like Vancouver BEFORE the UFA period? Edited October 14, 2020 by Dazzle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 If they end up receiving a penalty (fine, draft pick), they'll be absolutely fine. Terrific talent on the club, competitive, expansion exempt, a city where nearly all free agents want to play right now, and an owner who's other business' (specifically wine business) has not been hit by Covid and has only made more money, has made Vegas a club that will continue to spend money and be competitive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 NHL forces Vegas to release AP and he must play for Vancouver for league minimum for 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It will never happen but I'll laugh so hard if the league forced a divorce between AP and Vegas and nullify the contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, peaches5 said: My guess is Vegas made it clear to teams they were trying to dump players to that the deals were pending Pietrangelo signing. That is technically tampering to let a player know you are going to make a big push for them even if it is kinda indirectly. Columbus did the same thing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, rekker said: Acquiring AP as a free UFA cost them a boat load of cap and Nate Schmidt. I would giggle if it cost them a high pick for tampering as well. Really easy to dislike the Knights. And Statsny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Interesting to see how this plays out. Given the profile of the player, and the fact the “tampering” was successful as the Pietrangelo signing actually happened, I’d imagine the punishment would be on the higher end. Maybe similar (or even higher) than the 1994 NJD/STL tampering case with Stevens, where the result was a first round pick being given to the Devils, plus some $1.4 million in cash, and another first swapped between the teams (with the Devils getting the better pick). That’s assuming they actually prove wrongdoing, of course. Edited October 14, 2020 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We have yet to see what the actual charge is. There is always backchannel discussions... that is why players can sign contracts for millions of dollars 5 minutes after free agency opens. It isn’t technically tampering to have a “vague” discussion with an agent saying “we plan on looking for a top end RD this offseason, what do you think the market price for one of those types of players will be?” Everyone knows they are talking Pietrangelo, but they aren’t “really” talking about him. That is how those “not quite” negotiations happen pretty regularly. If Vegas didn’t do anything more obvious than that, it probably comes to nothing except the losing team being salty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Provost said: We have yet to see what the actual charge is. There is always backchannel discussions... that is why players can sign contracts for millions of dollars 5 minutes after free agency opens. It isn’t technically tampering to have a “vague” discussion with an agent saying “we plan on looking for a top end RD this offseason, what do you think the market price for one of those types of players will be?” Everyone knows they are talking Pietrangelo, but they aren’t “really” talking about him. That is how those “not quite” negotiations happen pretty regularly. If Vegas didn’t do anything more obvious than that, it probably comes to nothing except the losing team being salty. There used to be a discussion period of 5 days before players signed, that's why there was signings 5 minutes after it opened. That was not this case this year, however. I hope Vegas gets charged. They have had way too many things handed to them freely since being in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Boest-er said: What would be the supposed penalties for Vegas if this goes forward? JB got a fined for tampering a few years ago. They probably get something similar or nothing as the league could always say there isn't "clear and conclusive evidence" to this accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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