Gurn Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: Oh man, the UK is upto nearly 50,000 new cases in a single day! I sure hope Canada isn't in for another wave ... Unfortunately, I think we are. My local rec center opened up for drop in swims and such, but I didn't bother to buy a monthly pass. I figure we'll get about 2-3 weeks of low restrictions, then have to tighten things up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, gurn said: Unfortunately, I think we are. My local rec center opened up for drop in swims and such, but I didn't bother to buy a monthly pass. I figure we'll get about 2-3 weeks of low restrictions, then have to tighten things up again. I'm just holding out hope that our vaccination program has been stronger than others. We don't have as many 2nd doses administered, but we have the most 1st doses administered in the developed world. Also catching up with the 2nd doses too as I believe we are getting close to surpassing the USA soon. The UK also likely used primarily AstraZeneca since that's where it was developed, whereas we have been primarily using Pfizer and Moderna. Those are my hopes anyways... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 40 minutes ago, gurn said: Unfortunately, I think we are. My local rec center opened up for drop in swims and such, but I didn't bother to buy a monthly pass. I figure we'll get about 2-3 weeks of low restrictions, then have to tighten things up again. I’m ready: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, HKSR said: Those are my hopes anyways... Mine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Oh man, the UK is upto nearly 50,000 new cases in a single day! I sure hope Canada isn't in for another wave ... It'll be curious to see what hospitalization rates follow these spikes. If the vast majority of the vaccinated people stay out of the hospitals things shouldn't get too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Wilbur said: It'll be curious to see what hospitalization rates follow these spikes. If the vast majority of the vaccinated people stay out of the hospitals things shouldn't get too bad. Agreed. This is something we'll have to live with; the key is not overloading the system like what happened in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HKSR said: I'm just holding out hope that our vaccination program has been stronger than others. We don't have as many 2nd doses administered, but we have the most 1st doses administered in the developed world. Also catching up with the 2nd doses too as I believe we are getting close to surpassing the USA soon. The UK also likely used primarily AstraZeneca since that's where it was developed, whereas we have been primarily using Pfizer and Moderna. Those are my hopes anyways... Over 50s in the UK was AZ 40-50 could be either, under 40 is Pfizer, exception being those in higher risk catagories which were vaccinated in the first cohort. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5 AZ potentially could be better against Delta but that’s not confirmed but in the UK about 2/3 of those hospitalised haven’t had a jab and a handful have been double jabbed. AZ and Pfizer are around 92% effective at reducing hospitalisation. however a couple of the wife’s friends are ITU ward nurses and they have said that the wards are getting full again with predominantly younger people - because of not yet being double jabbed because of the roll out plan, but that there are fewer requiring intubation Edited July 15, 2021 by UKNuck96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 B.C. is 80.5% first dose vaccinated, and 50% second dose vaccinated. Come on people get vaccinated. Don't be like those ugly Americans who won't or refuse to based on their rights and freedoms, or their political stripes. This is a Global virus, and thankfully Canada/B.C. are leading the way. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, johngould21 said: B.C. is 80.5% first dose vaccinated, and 50% second dose vaccinated. Come on people get vaccinated. Don't be like those ugly Americans who won't or refuse to based on their rights and freedoms, or their political stripes. This is a Global virus, and thankfully Canada/B.C. are leading the way. Bring back MSP premiums for those unvaccinated without a medical reason. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Bring back MSP premiums for those unvaccinated without a medical reason. That and any medical support needed (even from your family dr.) because an antivaxxer is sick from Covid is user pay - in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: That and any medical support needed (even from your family dr.) because an antivaxxer is sick from Covid is user pay - in advance. I like the sentiment, but that's too close to American healthcare for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, johngould21 said: B.C. is 80.5% first dose vaccinated, and 50% second dose vaccinated. Come on people get vaccinated. Don't be like those ugly Americans who won't or refuse to based on their rights and freedoms, or their political stripes. This is a Global virus, and thankfully Canada/B.C. are leading the way. 31 yr old checking in.. 2nd dose just booked for the 25th 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicken. said: 31 yr old checking in.. 2nd dose just booked for the 25th 32 second dose today. Harm hurts like hell though. Didn’t feel a thing first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Alflives said: That and any medical support needed (even from your family dr.) because an antivaxxer is sick from Covid is user pay - in advance. A nice tattoo to the forehead would suffice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chicken. said: 31 yr old checking in.. 2nd dose just booked for the 25th Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I had reported what I saw on BC1 news this afternoon, showing the vaccination % for the Province. Low and behold, Global news at 6pm showed the Province at a smaller percentage of folks that have been vaccinated so far. How in hell can 2 news broadcasts not show the same numbers for their audiences? BC1 and Global are the same news outlet to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Wilbur said: It'll be curious to see what hospitalization rates follow these spikes. If the vast majority of the vaccinated people stay out of the hospitals things shouldn't get too bad. Chatted with a guy from the UK earlier in the week, he said yea their cases are rising but hospitalizations really aren't going up like before. He was trying to say how he feels even the AZ vaccine he got out there he feels is helping keep people out of the hospital. But I guess only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Russ said: Chatted with a guy from the UK earlier in the week, he said yea their cases are rising but hospitalizations really aren't going up like before. He was trying to say how he feels even the AZ vaccine he got out there he feels is helping keep people out of the hospital. But I guess only time will tell. Hospitalisation are going up it’s just with a different group, it’s not reported as much but I trust my wife’s ITU nurse friends who have been working the COVID wards in two of our local hospitals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) On 7/12/2021 at 6:51 PM, Alflives said: These vaccines are incredibly safe, and marvellously effective. I expect we will have vaccine passports soon. The Calgary Stampede requires proof of vaccination to get in. Those who are a feared of vaccination will be limited in society. You've been to Calgary? I'd make sure you got that dose of Pencillin for those "extracarricular activities" you undertook in the "Red Mile". Edited July 16, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 not going to post the full article as its long but worth a read on where we are at in the UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57858864 however the below might be of interest (by the BBC on the long term impact of covid) Covid: Younger adults still at risk of serious organ damage - study By Jim Reed BBC News Published 10 hours ago comments Comments Share Related Topics Coronavirus pandemic image captionPaul Godfrey suffered lung damage after contracting Covid aged 31 Younger adults admitted to hospital with Covid are almost as likely to suffer from complications as those over 50 years old, a study has found. Four in 10 of those between 19 and 49 developed problems with their kidneys, lungs or other organs while treated. The research looked at 73,197 adults of all ages across 302 UK hospitals in the first wave of Covid in 2020. "The message is that this is not just a disease of the elderly and frail," said Prof Calum Semple, who led the work. "The data reinforces the fact that Covid is not flu and we are seeing even young adults coming into hospital suffering significant complications, some of which will require furthering monitoring and potentially further treatment in the future." How are Covid rules changing on Monday? Where will I need to keep wearing a mask... and why? How many Covid cases are there in your area? Will 19 July unlocking gamble pay off or backfire? The study, conducted by researchers at seven UK universities, the Department of Health and Social Care and Public Health England, looked at the number of "complications" in those needing hospital treatment for Covid-19, defined as an organ-specific medical diagnosis. Overall, around half of all adult patients suffered a least one complication during their hospital stay. The most common was a kidney injury, followed by lung and heart damage. The highest rates were in those over 50 years old, with 51% reporting at least one problem. But they were also "very common" in younger age groups. Some 37% of 30 to 39 year olds and 44% of 40 to 49 year olds had at least one complication recorded by nurses and medical students involved in the study. Doctors are not yet certain how a severe Covid illness can cause organ damage, but it is thought in some cases the body's own immune system can spark an inflammatory response and injure healthy tissue. Paul Godfrey, from Frinton in Essex, developed Covid in March 2020 after suffering what he thought was a chest infection. Paul, who was 31 at the time of diagnosis and has the lung condition bronchiectasis, said: "There's no doubt about it - the NHS staff who cared for me saved my life. I would not be here today if it wasn't for them." image captionPaul Godfrey is still dealing with the damage caused to his body by Covid The study, published in the medical journal the Lancet, found that those with pre-existing conditions were more likely to report complications but the risk was high even in young, previously healthy individuals. 'Worst experience of my life' Paul was diagnosed with pneumonia in Colchester hospital and was told the bottom half of both his lungs had collapsed. He narrowly avoided being placed in an induced coma and spent two weeks on a Covid ward before he was allowed home in a wheelchair. The research showed that 13% of 19 to 29 year olds and 17% of 30 to 39 year olds hospitalised with Covid were unable to look after themselves at discharge and had to rely on friends and family. "It was the worst experience of my life and I am still dealing with it 18 months later," said Paul, who continues to suffer from extreme fatigue and breathlessness caused by his illness. "I don't really know what the damage is to my body so I am just praying I get back to what I was." Covid and younger adults IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES Age is the single largest factor in determining a severe Covid infection. Of the 406,687 people taken to hospital with the disease in England since the start of the pandemic, 62% were over the age of 65. That leaves another 155,866 under the age of 65 who have needed hospital treatment since February 2020. Higher vaccination rates in the elderly and vulnerable population mean that the average age of those hospitalised with the disease has been falling. In the week ending 4 July, there were just 17 people over 85 years old admitted to hospital with Covid in England, compared with 478 aged between 25 and 44. The research was conducted in the first wave of the pandemic between 17 January and 4 August 2020 - before vaccines were available and new variants of the virus had been detected. The authors said the data suggested those with more severe Covid symptoms at admission to hospital were more likely to suffer serious health problems, showing the importance of vaccines in reducing the severity of the disease in this latest wave. The study was only designed to look at short-term complications during a hospital stay but there is evidence some organ damage can persist, becoming a form of what is known as long Covid. "We do know from other infectious diseases that these sorts of problems with your kidneys or heart can develop into longer-term complications," said Dr Annemarie Docherty, senior clinical lecturer at the University of Edinburgh and a consultant in intensive care medicine. "I think it's reasonable to expect that this may be the same with Covid-19." 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