NucksPatsFan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said: lol, sorry i should have been more clear, Both Sutter and Beagle gone from the bottom 6, PK, and face offs? hmmmmmmmm. For the teams sake next year lets hope we find NHL caliber replacements for those 2 if you get your wish. I Have no info on either Boyd or Hawryluk playing center? do you? More value? if being much less expensive means more value than you are correct. More valuable to me is who the Coaching staff has on the ice to win games. I have no problem what so ever with Roussel let go or traded. I guess a better way to phrase my counter is do Beagle and Roussel provide any value to winning games? How much of an impact are Beagles faceoffs having on the results of games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, rekker said: I'm thinking the fact he's a righty will be the difference. With Beagle out and a possible Sutter move we need a righty. Any records of his faceoff percentage? 39.5% in his NHL career. Scoring Goals Assists Shots Ice Time Season Age Tm Lg GP G A PTS +/- PIM EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% TSA TOI ATOI FOW FOL FO% BLK HIT TK GV Awards 3 yrs WSH NHL 85 8 23 31 17 10 8 0 0 1 20 3 0 63 12.7 118 874 10:17 144 221 39.5 31 29 21 2017-18 24 WSH NHL 8 0 1 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0.0 5 71 8:50 18 18 50.0 1 2 0 0 2018-19 25 WSH NHL 53 5 15 20 6 6 5 0 0 1 13 2 0 35 14.3 77 521 9:50 76 134 36.2 21 13 14 15 2019-20 26 WSH NHL 24 3 7 10 9 2 3 0 0 0 6 1 0 26 11.5 36 282 11:45 50 69 42.0 9 14 7 6 2020-21 27 TOR NHL 20 3 5 8 1 2 2 1 0 0 5 0 0 15 20.0 33 193 9:40 6 19 24.0 9 9 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Can Matthews go on waivers next? k thx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Makes you wonder... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Jimmy, Jake, Jay, Jayce, JT, Jordie, Justin, Jalen Tanner, Tyler, Travis, Tyler, Travis, Tyler, Thatcher Bring us all the J’s and T’s and the cup will be ours!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Devron44 said: It’s called having fun and being competitive. I don’t envy any other teams. I bleed Canucks but if there was a team I’d strive to be I can tell you right now the Leafs would be at the bottom of my list. Then you're personal bias against the Leafs would work against you. You may not like the Leafs that doesn't mean they aren't a very good, entertaining, fun to watch, team with many star players.. I can think of many NHL teams I would have below the Leafs on my list.. For me BUF would be at the bottom of my list. No stability in management or coaching and a losing culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Alain Vigneault said: Shanahan is too busy building a team that's well equipped to make a deep playoff run this year I doubt he cares about basement dwelling Vancouver. Lol I corrected it for you: Shanahan is too busy building a team that's well equipped for another first round exit this year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Makes you wonder... Players sign those cheaper contracts to be on a contender and boost their stats for a bigger contract. You don’t sign with a rebuilding team unless they pay you way more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Makes you wonder... If didn’t know now you know this leaf fan is pretending to be a Canuck fan. Edited March 22, 2021 by CanuckleHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNiro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said: Injuries! Injuries have not been the story this season. Enough with the spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I keep seeing mention of this pickup in relation to Sutter and Beagle. Don't think it has anything to do with them personally. Both Boyd and Vesey are wingers in the NHL. Only way we potentially move Sutter is if Beagle is back before the TDL. We need at least ONE, matchup centre in lineup. We also have current winger injuries and guys we could potentially be looking at moving out (Pearson, Virtanen, Gaudette, Roussel). Picking up these waiver guys had more to do with those two things than Beagle or Sutter IMO. Good points. I agree this likely doesn't have anything to do with Beagle or Sutter, and more to do with our potentially moving wingers out. We need at least one matchup centre, definitely. And having dug through capfriendly to get an idea of how many of those might hit the ufa market there's actually a solid chance we retain Sutter. I love Beagle, he's got a lot of heart and he eats tough minutes, but he'll also be 36 in October. I don't see him being re-signed once his deal expires next July. Having just turned 32, there's more longevity for Sutter. There don't look to be too many matchup centres hitting the ufa market. The one I've heard mentioned repeatedly is Lowry, but given he'll be prime ages at 28 come July, his size, and respectable bottom six totals he'll probably be in high demand. I figure Winnipeg will do everything they can to retain him as well. Edited March 22, 2021 by Coconuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Players sign those cheaper contracts to be on a contender and boost their stats for a bigger contract. You don’t sign with a rebuilding team unless they pay you way more. We were more of a contender entering the year vs TO. TO is a pretender, got to win a playoff round before the word contender gets used imo haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Players sign those cheaper contracts to be on a contender and boost their stats for a bigger contract. You don’t sign with a rebuilding team unless they pay you way more. But that would imply the Leafs have been contending for many seasons since they don't have any anchor contracts bringing them down. Yet, Benning was brought in the same time as Shanahan. Something isn't adding up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: I guess a better way to phrase my counter is do Beagle and Roussel provide any value to winning games? How much of an impact are Beagles faceoffs having on the results of games? Roussel I have already stated my Opinion which seems to be in line with yours Beagle, I have a lot of respect for, dollar value of contract signed not so much, but he was a Free agent with a Stanley cup, pedigree faceoffs, PK, defensive specialist All of those factors to me have value in winning games. Same goes for Sutter but not at 4.35 mill. Again, IMHO opinion, Sutter and Beagle as bottom 6 centers bring value to winning games and the Coaches actions, ice time seems to agree. We defiantly will have a much different looking bottom 6 next year. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: But that would imply the Leafs have been contending for many seasons since they don't have any anchor contracts bringing them down. Yet, Benning was brought in the same time as Shanahan. Something isn't adding up here The greedy selfish players they have at the top don’t allow any money to be put towards other parts of their team ps the haters from leaf nation are the biggest pile of monkey sh#t on this planet! Edited March 22, 2021 by CanuckleHorse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNiro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: We were more of a contender entering the year vs TO. TO is a pretender, got to win a playoff round before the word contender gets used imo haha! Yea but those contracts listed were signed when we were full on rebuilding. Throwing Eriksson in the mix there is also pointless. He was signed to that contract after a 30 goal season. No one could have predicted him falling off a cliff offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said: Roussel I have already stated my Opinion which seems to be in line with yours Beagle, I have a lot of respect for, dollar value of contract signed not so much, but he was a Free agent with a Stanley cup, pedigree faceoffs, PK, defensive specialist All of those factors to me have value in winning games. Same goes for Sutter but not at 4.35 mill. Again, IMHO opinion, Sutter and Beagle as bottom 6 centers bring value to winning games and the Coaches actions, ice time seems to agree. We defiantly will have a much different looking bottom 6 next year. If someone is offering a 1st for Sutter... There was an article a while ago about Toronto “could” offer a 1st for Pearson... Edited March 22, 2021 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: But that would imply the Leafs have been contending for many seasons since they don't have any anchor contracts bringing them down. Yet, Benning was brought in the same time as Shanahan. Something isn't adding up here They can always convince good old Toronto boys to sign with them. Not to mention playing in the center of the universe with Matthews is gonna boost a players profile and payday much more than it would have in Vancouver during those same years. Many reasons why cheap UFAs would have chosen them over us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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