hammertime Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Thought this was the Horvat thread woops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I think it has to be Wright if its Seattle, I like Ryker Evans but does that & a first really move the needle enough to trade him to a division rival? Idk. Evans and 1st is less value than Faber and the 19th for Fiala. Bill even said he sold low just to get it done fast. Imo a deal with Seattle being the new rival club, In the division and Bo on a heater goal wise PLUS plays a valuable position 2C.. They need to overpay and it starts with Wright. But I have no confidence in anything management related. Everyone above Bruce is incompetent af apparently.. So who knows what happens lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Can Jersey just take Miller. Miller for Mukhamadullin, Bahl. Then, still move Bo as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 hours ago, J-23 said: Who is this guy Bucci guy? Is he reliable source? He has 400k followers..and is followed by Elliott and Canuck media guys. Bucci has the scoop. Looks like he is narrowing it down to one team now. I think I may be WRIGHT about this guy... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 This is a bad time for management to look weak. The vultures are probably circling right now. I mean would you offer fair value to them with all the bumbling they’ve done? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 56 minutes ago, J-23 said: Can Jersey just take Miller. Miller for Mukhamadullin, Bahl. Then, still move Bo as well. Bo leaving is inevitable, they need to find a way to move Miller too. He doesn't fit the timeline of what'll probably be a rebuild regardless of what management calls it. He never did. I can't believe management fooled themselves into thinking we'd be contending in a couple seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mustard Tiger said: Evans and 1st is less value than Faber and the 19th for Fiala. Bill even said he sold low just to get it done fast. Imo a deal with Seattle being the new rival club, In the division and Bo on a heater goal wise PLUS plays a valuable position 2C.. They need to overpay and it starts with Wright. But I have no confidence in anything management related. Everyone above Bruce is incompetent af apparently.. So who knows what happens lol No offense but I think everyone below Bruce are also incompetent af. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Bucci has the scoop. Looks like he is narrowing it down to one team now. I think I may be WRIGHT about this guy... Who is bucci? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Who is bucci? Who is this mysterious one you call bucci? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mustard Tiger said: Evans and 1st is less value than Faber and the 19th for Fiala. Bill even said he sold low just to get it done fast. Imo a deal with Seattle being the new rival club, In the division and Bo on a heater goal wise PLUS plays a valuable position 2C.. They need to overpay and it starts with Wright. But I have no confidence in anything management related. Everyone above Bruce is incompetent af apparently.. So who knows what happens lol Guerin called it a fair trade in his post-trade presser and follow-up radio interview. He said he didn't see the need to wait till the draft or pitch teams against each other because it was fair value. He actually didn't allow other teams to pitch. He says LA was serious from the get go in wanting Fiala, so he shut down talks with other teams. Took 3 weeks to agree on the return as also confirmed by Blake. Fiala had then less than 24 hours to agree to a contract. Fitzgerald of NJD confirmed that the Wild were locked in with another team and they never got an opportunity to make a trade offer. Guerin had already explained earlier that it's really hard to make trades that once you have a trade partner you try and make it work. Says he's not looking to win trades but to make fair trades. His post-trade presser is probably still on their website. Guerin was mentored by Rutherford with Guerin saying the advice he got from him when he took the Wild job was to make fair trades or he won't be making many. Edited January 21, 2023 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Sounds like Carolina has the most concrete offer. Bo for KK + Morrow + 2nd? Doubt we'd get a first as well. I'd take that to be honest. Morrow is still relatively unproven but 20yo RD putting up some nice numbers as a junior, will need at least a year to cook in the AHL. Problem is, he could be another Rathbone-like project - former 2nd rounder, not had a shot yet in the NHL. It'd suck if we just got a 3C 30-40 point center in KK and a couple of 2nd rounder prospects for Bo so you'd hope they give is a first too because there are far better RDs out there surely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Sounds like Carolina has the most concrete offer. Bo for KK + Morrow + 2nd? Doubt we'd get a first as well. I'd take that to be honest. Morrow is still relatively unproven but 20yo RD putting up some nice numbers as a junior, will need at least a year to cook in the AHL. Problem is, he could be another Rathbone-like project - former 2nd rounder, not had a shot yet in the NHL. It'd suck if we just got a 3C 30-40 point center in KK and a couple of 2nd rounder prospects for Bo so you'd hope they give is a first too because there are far better RDs out there surely. Would need to be a first , best player coming back can’t be Morrow. Either that or swap KK for Necas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Sounds like Carolina has the most concrete offer. Bo for KK + Morrow + 2nd? Doubt we'd get a first as well. I'd take that to be honest. Morrow is still relatively unproven but 20yo RD putting up some nice numbers as a junior, will need at least a year to cook in the AHL. Problem is, he could be another Rathbone-like project - former 2nd rounder, not had a shot yet in the NHL. It'd suck if we just got a 3C 30-40 point center in KK and a couple of 2nd rounder prospects for Bo so you'd hope they give is a first too because there are far better RDs out there surely. Morrow is a solid prospect. But he’s a US college kid, so could go the UFA route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Necas isn't coming lol hes their leading scorer. Kk, morrow and a first is a decent return and fills some holes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conscience said: Necas isn't coming lol hes their leading scorer. Kk, morrow and a first is a decent return and fills some holes. Yup. Need the first to cover for Morrow being a college player. And JK plays with some bite. We need more of his type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Neutral said: Your probably right, rinse and repeat long term with the same players who have yet to build team chemistry and play a better all around game. Or would it the the Benning that just ran out of time and never even offered Tanev a long time Canuck a contract because he was too inammered trying to trade for OEL then and going back till the bitter end to sign the older goalie in Markstrom... Sucks to see Bo going, but this sure seems like a Keenan/Messier 2.0 with a new regime seemingly backing JT long term to stick with the team vs signing the captain this past off season. Im not in favour of paying Bo for his contract year but a long term deal 7-7.5m for a captain to remain on his team should be fair for both sides...seen other NHL captains sign to remain with their original club that drafted them. Hopefully some big bold trades happen from now till the draft and see if they intend to do MAJOR surgery as the President would say... Well lets see what happens... I've said nummerous times, I think Horvat is traded, and the writing was on the wall, the minute the ink on Millers contract was dry... They probably extended the wrong player, although they both big something defferently... At the end of last season, only few were dead against trading Bo, but his play this season has given management eggs on their faces. Would not be surprised to see Kuz go depending on his situation. what ever they do, the only thing unacceptable would be Bo, Kuz and Schenn leave for free in the summer. In that case J/R, P/A and the chipmunks should all be sacked instantly. And yes Benning may have made a lot of mistakes, but he didn't lowball the players in general... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, spook007 said: Well lets see what happens... I've said nummerous times, I think Horvat is traded, and the writing was on the wall, the minute the ink on Millers contract was dry... They probably extended the wrong player, although they both big something defferently... At the end of last season, only few were dead against trading Bo, but his play this season has given management eggs on their faces. Would not be surprised to see Kuz go depending on his situation. what ever they do, the only thing unacceptable would be Bo, Kuz and Schenn leave for free in the summer. In that case J/R, P/A and the chipmunks should all be sacked instantly. And yes Benning may have made a lot of mistakes, but he didn't lowball the players in general... I would have agreed with this last off-season or at beginning of the year but at this point I think both should be traded along with potentially anyone not named EP or QH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Just now, DrJockitch said: I would have agreed with this last off-season or at beginning of the year but at this point I think both should be traded along with potentially anyone not named EP or QH. Can't disagree on that... very little has been done by anyone, to not make them indispensible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Would need to be a first , best player coming back can’t be Morrow. Either that or swap KK for Necas Sadly the first is basically a 2nd rounder anyway, Carolina will surely be picking 30-32 OA so not that exciting. I really hope there's a better package out there, surely Detroit or Boston can beat that with some stacked Detroit prospects. Edvinsson or Wallinder + would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearoftheNuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Bucci has the scoop. Looks like he is narrowing it down to one team now. I think I may be WRIGHT about this guy... Honestly I would happily do a straight up swap, Bo for Wright. Wright has a very high ceiling and his whole career ahead of him. Before last year’s trade deadline I preached to all of my co-workers and friends that I would happily trade Miller for Boldy in a one for one deal (if the Wild were crazy enough to do that) and I got flamed by everyone but I stood my ground lol. Of course I’d love it if we received a hefty package for Bo, but if we can land a triple A, can’t miss prospect for him (which I believe Wright is) then I think we should consider a one for one trade. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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