Popular Post wallstreetamigo Posted December 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2021 Tanner Pearson after hearing any Pens pro scout has been hired: 1 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I guess this confirms JR will be running the show. Not sure how the incoming GM will feel about the AGM being a close confidant of JR. Just hope the Rutherford Show doesn’t backfire, the GM should’ve had a say in the AGM hire imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Makes sense to get this move done early so Rutherford has a trusted lieutenant and sounding board as he makes his assessment of the roster over the next month and a half. Clancey comes from a pro scouting background (Pro Scout, Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel) and was instrumental in helping JR make the moves needed to bring in the final pieces to build those Cup-winning teams in Pittsburgh. JR - exploring some trade, possibilities ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kchengc Posted December 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Can we hire JB to lead the amateur scouting department? I heard that he is pretty good at that and found three consecutive Calder cup winners/finalists with his previous club. Edited December 16, 2021 by kchengc 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said: Derek Clancey was presumably a part of many of the trades involving pro players that the Penguins made during Rutherford's tenure. I presume that doesn't include Marino since I'm pretty sure he was still in College when they acquired him. A bit of a mixed bag of trades: Zucker hasn't really panned out nor did Galchenyuk (who was part of their package to acquire Zucker), although Zucker is still a decent top-9 forward (but overpaid). Rodrigues was a decent pick up although they did trade him to TOR in the Kapanen trade before re-signing him. Pettersson and Matheson (notwithstanding how much Canucks fans might hate him) were decent acquisitions though. There many more trades but those are the only guys who are still with the team. Many other players were acquired and then let go. It will be interesting to see if the Canucks will be as active in the trade market. Rutherford's group made a few large deals but also many smaller ones so we could see a fair bit movement in the supporting players (including in Abbotsford) if the Rutherford's (and now Clancey's) history with the Penguins provide any indication of what we could expect. Yeah, I was also looking at the transaction history, in PIT and it wasn't impressive perhaps, the reason is, that they had the main pieces and they were looking for players to complement there core (?). Anyways, hopefully, they can learn some lessons from there past, that will make sense for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 The Canucks are hiring 3 AGM’s and a GM. This is one of the three. The new GM will still be able to bring his guy in unless one of the ex Pens executives get the GM job. Then I’m sure he will be fine with the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, AriGold said: He's really a scout that is looking to transition into the GM. He's responsible for the horrific draft list for the last 6 years. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007475.html He's a pro scout not an amateur scout He probably is a huge reason for the HBK line 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, -AJ- said: Kind of weird to have an assistant GM before a GM, haha. I had the exact same thought. The fact that the AGM is tight with the President makes me wonder how a candidate for the GM is going to feel knowing the guy below you has your bosses ear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I wouldn't put too much stock into blaming Clancey for the Penguins' drafts over the last few years. It hasn't been great, but isn't that the GM's call? Well that's a relief 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Goal:thecup said: He's gonna hire a half dozen AGMs and make them bag skate. Come on man, Green's not running the show anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Goodness people need to learn some hockey terminology. Clancey was a PRO scout in charge of scouting PRO players already in the league for potential transactions. Not an AMATEUR scout in charge of the prospects/draft. Chill. Edited December 16, 2021 by PetterssonOrPeterson 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, The King of Kings said: In this case, it looks like "Assistant GM" is not the same as "assistant to the GM". GM is a job position reporting to the President. Assistant GM is another job position reporting to the President. Both positions serve different functions. I suppose. In my mind, I assumed the AGMs all reported to the GM, but maybe that's not how it's structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: Goodness people need to learn some hockey terminology. Clancey was a PRO scout in charge of scouting PRO players already in the league for potential transactions. Not an AMATEUR scout in charge of the prospects/draft. Chill. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Tom Clancy's son. Lets go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: Do these guys coming in get a housing allowance? It appears that JR will go with a young GM who will look for support from the people who JR have already brought in. The housing allowance is the million per year aqua will pay them lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Makes sense to get this move done early so Rutherford has a trusted lieutenant and sounding board as he makes his assessment of the roster over the next month and a half. Clancey comes from a pro scouting background (Pro Scout, Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel) and was instrumental in helping JR make the moves needed to bring in the final pieces to build those Cup-winning teams in Pittsburgh. To be honest @SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME; I am not that impressed with his scouting or pro scouting record while with Pittsburgh. You can check it out at quanthockey.com. Granted they were drafting later on in each round but I just do not see much there that impresses me. I hope he proves me wrong about him though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle beef Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 cool. now all we need is a Crosby like player and were good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Wish him the best, hoping the team tries to get someone from the Tampa Bay, Colorado or Carolina organization to fill out the rest of those vacancies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Makes sense to get this move done early so Rutherford has a trusted lieutenant and sounding board as he makes his assessment of the roster over the next month and a half. Clancey comes from a pro scouting background (Pro Scout, Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel) and was instrumental in helping JR make the moves needed to bring in the final pieces to build those Cup-winning teams in Pittsburgh. In a Machiavellian sense, Rutherford also gets a trusted lieutenant and sounding board in the room for meetings which he (JR) might not otherwise be in attendance. This could be useful if the successful candidate for the new GM job is someone who is not a trusted associated who has previously worked with Rutherford. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Jim Rutherford: "We are building a front office with people with a variety of backgrounds. Derek has excellent experience and has played an important role on three Stanley Cup winning teams. He will be a key member of our leadership team as we create a progressive, collaborative hockey operations group that can support our team and players at all levels." This sounds awesome. Like a pro is building a pro front office. LOVE IT!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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