Alflives Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 With an announcement coming soon (650 reporting by Monday) on Boudreau coming back, it looks like we will very likely extend Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted April 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Oooo? A Miller thread for us to run around in circles in? With unsourced speculation sprinkled in for extra flavour? Edited April 28, 2022 by Coconuts 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -AJ- Posted April 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2022 I believe that the total dollars is largely irrelevant. The annual cap hit is what matters far more. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, -AJ- said: I believe that the total dollars is largely irrelevant. The annual cap hit is what matters far more. Cap matters to managment/us more. Total dollars are all players/agents care about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, aGENT said: Cap matters to managment/us more. Total dollars are all players/agents care about. Fair enough. I suspect trade protection is very significant too, especially to older player with families. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 38 minutes ago, aGENT said: Cap matters to managment/us more. Total dollars are all players/agents care about. Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 IMO any term more than 6 years is insane. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, YEGCanuck said: IMO any term more than 6 years is insane. I'd love 4-5 years but that AAV gets real ugly, real quick. 6 is probably the compromise that still gets him money and security etc and keeps the AAV somewhat sane, but minimizes age related decline risk on the clubs end (though those last couple years could get UGLY). Agree though, any longer than 6 years and I'm out! Edited April 28, 2022 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 If Boudreau is coming back then so is Miller. No way Boudreau comes back to a team that just traded their leading scorer. JR/PA will find a way to fit Miller's salary under the cap. Boeser, Myers, Dickinson, Poolman can all be traded. None of those players are really needed if we can get some RHD back in the trades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Can't see his contract being less than 9 AAV at this point. Considering what Hertl got. Though this can change depending on how much Kadri signs for this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If Boudreau is coming back then so is Miller. No way Boudreau comes back to a team that just traded their leading scorer. JR/PA will find a way to fit Miller's salary under the cap. Boeser, Myers, Dickinson, Poolman can all be traded. None of those players are really needed if we can get some RHD back in the trades. I think that Miller is back without a new contract anyways. The reason being, that he is having a career season this year and has another full year under contract. I think they wait a year to re-sign in the hopes that a more reasonable number and term can be negotiated because his numbers likely fall off a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Wish more players had that Burr mentality and took a discount for the sake of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Canuck You said: Wish more players had that Burr mentality and took a discount for the sake of the team. If you are winning, yes. But on a team consistently losing and missing the playoffs, its going to be hard to get discounts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: If Boudreau is coming back then so is Miller. No way Boudreau comes back to a team that just traded their leading scorer. JR/PA will find a way to fit Miller's salary under the cap. Boeser, Myers, Dickinson, Poolman can all be traded. None of those players are really needed if we can get some RHD back in the trades. Yup. Our owner has set the direction (again) and he wants Miller signed. So Boudreau has to be back too. Miller will get 60 - 64 mil. the term will determine the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 hours ago, iinatcc said: Can't see his contract being less than 9 AAV at this point. Considering what Hertl got. Though this can change depending on how much Kadri signs for this off-season. Yup. Kadri and Gaudreau will be the benchmark Miller’s agent will be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) It'll probably be top heavy and ideally 4-5 years extension (9 year 1-2? to 7.5-8.5 in years 3-4-5)? He'll need to take a hometown discount if the Canucks can keep him and Horvat. If he wants 9+ for 7-8 years, they HAVE TO TRADE HIM. Edited April 28, 2022 by BureBurrito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Quite a few expert analysts have been saying $50 to $55M. That's right in line with what I think too. Hertl's contract kicks in when he's 28 years 11 months old. Zib when he's 29 years 6 months old. Miller will be 30 years 7 months old when he plays his first game on a new contract, a year older than Zib, and almost 2 years older than Hertl. Closer to 31 years old than 30 Those years will make a big difference when it comes to his new contract. Edited April 28, 2022 by HKSR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) I think it has to be in the 8.5 x 5 range. That would be the only middle ground that makes sense to me, otherwise we should move him. I'm still firmly in the move him camp if we can gain 2-3 strong young pieces that will be better for the franchise in the long term, but I can't ignore what he will bring for the next 2-3 years. Essentially if the team feels their window is in the next 2 years then you keep him and if they feel the window starts in 2 years then you move him. Edited April 28, 2022 by Kobayashi Maru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 12 hours ago, aGENT said: I'd love 4-5 years but that AAV gets real ugly, real quick. 6 is probably the compromise that still gets him money and security etc and keeps the AAV somewhat sane, but minimizes age related decline risk on the clubs end (though those last couple years could get UGLY). Agree though, any longer than 6 years and I'm out! I agree that an 8yr term is too long for Miller. I would rather see a bit higher salary at $9m x 6yr with a M-NTC (16 team no trade). Keeping in mind that Bo will need a new contract as well. Give him the longer term and less $ with the same M-NTC. $8m x 8yr. Including the 2 dmen $14m that will be roughly $41m for 5 players The following year it will be Pete $$$$10m and Podz $4m? Luckily OEL's contract expires before Hughes + Demko have to be re-signed. It wouldn't be so bad if the Nucks had a higher skill level in Abby with ECL's who could replace players reaching the end of their contracts. $10m + $9m + $8m for the best forwards is in the range for contending teams, but at this point in the Canuck's projection it would be bloated for a team that is trying to make the playoffs. If they start contending in 2-3 yrs it wouldn't look so bad. Having 2 dmen at +$7m is way out of line right now, but a contending teams often has the top 2dmen in the +$14m range. It's doable, but what a headache. The salary cap has to be justified by the team becoming contender in the next 2-3 yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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