stawns Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, CanuckinEdm said: We suck because our defense is terrible. plain and simple. They suck because there is no discernible defensive system employed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I really wanted Dach and would have been happy to see us trade up to get him. hes had an interesting development path so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Risky but may be very rewarding, who knows, if he ends up an 80-100pt scorer this will be such a steal. I don't think he has that much high end skill but good size and will likely be a career 60-80pt player, so 7M isn't horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Maginator said: And 68 points. As a now sophomore. This is a healthy risk. A 21 year old with clear skill isn't going to drop off. If anything he'll continue to improve. everyone was saying the same things about Boeser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, stawns said: It's not the Milkers and the OEL's, it's the majority of the league in the middle........that said, the Millers and OEL's have paid their dues and earned those contracts. Too bad they weren't "earning" it elsewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Angry Goose said: everyone was saying the same things about Boeser. I only know canucks. How is boldy's skating? That's what it'll come down to. If he's a good skater, he'll be fine. That's the new league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: I only know canucks. How is boldy's skating? That's what it'll come down to. If he's a good skater, he'll be fine. That's the new league. my point was more that young players dont always improve. you can gamble on some. Boldy is probably a good bet. Everyone wanted to go long term w Boeser but I definitely wasnt as enamoured as some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Shayster007 said: For me, it was his performance in a men's league that was so impressive. He was holding his own, and often dominating in the DEL (I think, this is all from memory). I loved his style of physical hockey, and felt he was very strong defensively. I had no idea he would become so good offensively. I kept telling my buddy I was hoping we would take him at 9, and he thought I was nuts and there was no way. When Detroit took him at 6 or 7 he texted me in disbelief. Now he has a Seider jersey. 11 points in 43 games in the DEL, 6'4 and right handed shot. Not sure why he was ranked so low. Broberg had worse numbers in the second division Swedish league. Soderstrom has worse numbers in a better league (SHL) but a 5'11 frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 hours ago, stawns said: 89 games, $7m and 7 years. This is exactly what concerns me when JR is saying they want to get younger players back in any trade. Let's say you get a 'Boldy' level player or hit a home-run and get a Byram on trade for BoHo for example. That type of player is going to want to come off of their ELC right into a hefty contract with dollar/term (this isn't a debate whether they deserve it or not, it's simply the trend in the NHL right now - to pay huge contracts to players right off their ELC) - we simply can't afford that and have no long-range cap-structure plan in place as far as I can tell other than to simply 'wait out the bad contracts' as JR himself admitted today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Maginator said: And 68 points. As a now sophomore. This is a healthy risk. A 21 year old with clear skill isn't going to drop off. If anything he'll continue to improve. That’s what Brock Boeser said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw604 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Judd Brackett This contracts gonna age well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Regardless of whether you rate Boldy or not, pretty risky signing imo. These are the kinds of decisions that sometimes end up backfiring on teams down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Fanuck said: This is exactly what concerns me when JR is saying they want to get younger players back in any trade. Let's say you get a 'Boldy' level player or hit a home-run and get a Byram on trade for BoHo for example. That type of player is going to want to come off of their ELC right into a hefty contract with dollar/term (this isn't a debate whether they deserve it or not, it's simply the trend in the NHL right now - to pay huge contracts to players right off their ELC) - we simply can't afford that and have no long-range cap-structure plan in place as far as I can tell other than to simply 'wait out the bad contracts' as JR himself admitted today. That's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, klw604 said: Judd Brackett This contracts gonna age well Brackett was still with the Canucks that draft - Podkolzin taken 2 spots before Boldy. His 1st draft with the Wild was the Rossi pick the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, grandmaster said: The Wild will be going through a fire sale of players. They are going to be more Cap’d out with this contract as the Sutter and Parise contracts will also rise from 13 to 14.7M starting next year. Makes it evident why they can't add Boeser. They likely won't extend Dumba. Beat writer Joe Smith speculates that they could trade Greenway. He's apparently missed meetings already twice this year and could be on thin ice although they haven't disciplined him (other than a scratch where they said he was sick). Other players have taken steps to earn larger roles where now he could be replaced on that GREEF line. Got to also wonder about Goligoski. He has been a regular healthy scratch (played only 17 games) and is apparently frustrated. Only 2M but they can get someone cheaper to play D7. Edited January 17, 2023 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 hours ago, stawns said: The next round of collective bargaining should be interesting, within the NHLPA, for sure. I'm pretty sure they are going to put some type of limit on second contracts. Toronto just messed up everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm pretty sure they are going to put some type of limit on second contracts. Toronto just messed up everyone. I hope so, this is ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Angry Goose said: everyone was saying the same things about Boeser. Boldy is faster than Brock? Better skater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: Boldy is faster than Brock? Better skater? the point wasnt about 1 to 1 comparison to Brock-it’s about the projection of young players-they dont always improve. a lot of people thought the Canucks should have signed Boeser long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: the point wasnt about 1 to 1 comparison to Brock-it’s about the projection of young players-they dont always improve. a lot of people thought the Canucks should have signed Boeser long term. I mean, I still would. Problem is we keep adding one dimensional wingers. So, yeah. I can see why Boeser is getting hated on but I think he's a good 60 point guy. But there's less room for him when we keep adding other 50-60 point guys. I bet on a longer term deal he signs at closer to 6 mil rather than nearly 7mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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