Citizen Erased Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I am so glad Alvin and Co. seen through his BS too. To think about us keeping him and trading Miller would have taken us so far back, we would be probably looking at a full rebuild by now. He was way overrated and didn't possess the leadership qualities that was needed to take this team into battle. You can tell us that for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Garland + pick for Pinto please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Odd. said: Garland + pick for Pinto please. But isn’t pinto good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, Odd. said: Garland + pick for Pinto please. Ottawa has no cap space to take on Garland, if they did they would simply re-sign Pinto. We'd have to dump Beauvillier somewhere and then trade a pick and/or prospect for Pinto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, RWJC said: As depth, Myers is still incredibly important to this club. People disregard that because of cap hit, but good luck in finding a viable replacement for him if absolutely necessary. Best play right now is to move Garland for straight cap relief. Go through the season to see where Beau fits in as and when needed and depending on position, keep him as a cheap “freebie” for a playoff run. Utilize the Garland cap savings to purchase expiring UFA depth at TDL. If not in the hunt, we’ve established two decent trade targets for any contenders. it’s the safest bet at the moment. once we see how the season progresses perhaps there’s a few more “hockey trade” options presented from and through other teams’ fate, but for now if we’re serious to try and make the cut, we will need allllllll the depth with NHL experience that we currently have. Move Garland and GM the sh!t out of how we best utilize any excess F or call ups. Mik, BB6, Pearson are all still question marks. Kuz may hit the sophomore slump. Better to be safe than sorry I’m expecting things to simply run smoothly, because that is not the pedigree when it comes to this club unfortunately It's pointless to trade Myers now as we have no replacement for him. We are still weak on the right side as is. Also, makes no sense to trade him at the deadline to weaken our team for a playoff run. We need to keep him for the whole year and hope he produces on the 3rd pairing playing sheltered minutes with no PK time... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) If i have to watch his stupid hockey plays and lame efforts at stopping forwards for another season i'm gonna puke! Edited September 9, 2023 by Bure2Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's pointless to trade Myers now as we have no replacement for him. We are still weak on the right side as is. Also, makes no sense to trade him at the deadline to weaken our team for a playoff run. We need to keep him for the whole year and hope he produces on the 3rd pairing playing sheltered minutes with no PK time... Depends on when Bear is ready right? But seriously, Myers is here still because of the reason you suggest, they just don't have anybody better. It's a question of availability and cap hit. Allvin said himself that Myers was going to play. Allvin also said that they like Juulson so likely they have Hronek, Myers and Juulson on the right barring some very fortunate circumstance. Bear looked like a good fit but of course, they have to play the odds and based on his injury and likely rehab, they can't count on Baer even though they like him. Hard call but you have to like Allvin's pragmatism. On the left, the have Hughes, Soucy and Cole which will be just fine. Over all, the D is much better than last year This is a short term solution and the D will be much better. They're going step-wise and that is ok by me. Next year will be another step. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bure2Win said: If i have to watch his stupid hockey plays and lame efforts at stopping forwards for another season i'm gonna puke! Here’s a solution - just watch the Duncan Keith hit on repeat. It might make you feel somewhat better. If not, too bad. I’d rather the team have the requisite depth until we can replace him. I’ll send you a barf bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Depends on when Bear is ready right? But seriously, Myers is here still because of the reason you suggest, they just don't have anybody better. It's a question of availability and cap hit. Allvin said himself that Myers was going to play. Allvin also said that they like Juulson so likely they have Hronek, Myers and Juulson on the right barring some very fortunate circumstance. Bear looked like a good fit but of course, they have to play the odds and based on his injury and likely rehab, they can't count on Baer even though they like him. Hard call but you have to like Allvin's pragmatism. On the left, the have Hughes, Soucy and Cole which will be just fine. Over all, the D is much better than last year This is a short term solution and the D will be much better. They're going step-wise and that is ok by me. Next year will be another step. I think Juulsen is the wild card. If he can play with Hughes, then we are set up pretty well. Here's hoping... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Canucks Curse said: But isn’t pinto good ? Not in my opinion. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Would be nice to hurry it up, training camp is around the corner. The cap situation is tricky but Mikheyev could be thrown on LTIR to free up space for Pearson so you never know. We look really set though, don't think we need anymore forwards, with Suter and Blueger as well as hopefully Podz and Hogs we're really full up, unless we somehow move Beau or Garland, and of course a Myers trade would be nice but these are all big contracts to move and I fear we'll end up paying for it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 myers gone, juulsen and pearson make the team. we sign bear with the remaining cap after myers is gone, when hes ready in dec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Myers and Garland need to be moved. Cleanse the Benning stain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's pointless to trade Myers now as we have no replacement for him. We are still weak on the right side as is. Also, makes no sense to trade him at the deadline to weaken our team for a playoff run. We need to keep him for the whole year and hope he produces on the 3rd pairing playing sheltered minutes with no PK time... Nope. Myers needs to go. Juulsson and Woo are better. Cleanse the Benning from this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, Alflives said: Nope. Myers needs to go. Juulsson and Woo are better. Cleanse the Benning from this club. So trade Petey and Hughes as well? I'm surprised Alf you and Myers have a lot in common. For every good move he makes, he makes 2-3 bad moves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I think Juulsen is the wild card. If he can play with Hughes, then we are set up pretty well. Here's hoping... This. I don't think people appreciate just how well Juulsen seems to fit with Hughes. It's one of those things that shouldn't work, but somehow does (kind of like Burr with the Sedins). Physical and quick dman that seems to thrive alongside a PMD like Quinn. It's worth another extended look, especially with Bear being out for 4 more months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Nope. Myers needs to go. Juulsson and Woo are better. Cleanse the Benning from this club. Woo has played zero NHL games but is better than Myers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Need more gunslingers in this league. Too many conservative GMs happy to do just enough to try and keep their jobs. The NHL would be much more exciting if we saw more player movement like in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Nope. Myers needs to go. Juulsson and Woo are better. Cleanse the Benning from this club. Johansson might also be ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Depends on when Bear is ready right? But seriously, Myers is here still because of the reason you suggest, they just don't have anybody better. It's a question of availability and cap hit. Allvin said himself that Myers was going to play. Allvin also said that they like Juulson so likely they have Hronek, Myers and Juulson on the right barring some very fortunate circumstance. Bear looked like a good fit but of course, they have to play the odds and based on his injury and likely rehab, they can't count on Baer even though they like him. Hard call but you have to like Allvin's pragmatism. On the left, the have Hughes, Soucy and Cole which will be just fine. Over all, the D is much better than last year This is a short term solution and the D will be much better. They're going step-wise and that is ok by me. Next year will be another step. I think it's a pretty safe bet that one of Cole/Soucy ends up playing right side with Hughes. The other with Hronek. Myers on the third pair (likely with Irwin/Wolanin). Juulsen, if he makes the club, is likely #7/8 D (along with Irwin/Wolanin). And there for injuries/replace Myers should a trade develop. Though I'd imagine at some point if we move Myers/have injuries, we'll also sign Bear when he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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