Alflives Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, goblix said: I guess the people who lose out the most on this deal are Grenier and Gaunce. Etem being waiver eligible makes 1 more hurdle for hem to get in the NHL. on the flip side maybe the addition of Etem makes Burrows / Higgins / Prust expendable How about all three go, and Guance and Shinkaruk come up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Wild Sean Monahan said: Cause that's what it took to get the deal done? I don't consider Jensen for Etem straight up a fair swap. lol 7th rounder is meaningless, the trade would have happen neway. JB seems easy to give away those pick to close the deal, if the deal is made its not the addition of a late pick that going to make it fall through. I don't mind him giving him, as long as some times he gets the additional one, but he never does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCannon Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, HK Phooey said: Sorry Mc...wasn't meant to be a sleight on your post...I love the Etem trade for the Canucks, but I think the Ducks miss Beleskey (and Beauchemin) more than they miss Etem. A 22/23 year old who played 12 minutes per game isn't going to be too badly missed. Hopefully he comes here and fulfills the promise he showed as a Duck. I'm really liking the idea of two heavy forwards (Etem and Virtanen) between a smallish centre like McCann or Vey. Maybe, just maybe, Vey re-united with Etem helps the two become bona-fide NHLers. I'd love to see the following forward lines tomorrow vs. the Bolts: Sedin -- Sedin -- Burrows Baertschi -- Horvat -- Vrbata Prust -- McCann -- Dorsett Etem -- Vey -- Virtanen Shinkaruk McCann Etem - shinky scored 49 with Etem in junior, Etem scored 61....I think those 2 have some chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, RonMexico said: I can't believe some people are at all worried that the 6th round pick might haunt the team. Fair enough. According to http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/analyzing-value-nhl-draft-picks/ a 6th round pick has about a 10% chance of becoming an NHL regular. So yes, a 6th round pick is a lottery ticket, but lottery tickets have some value and you don't want to give away too many. Still, I agree that this looks like a good trade for Vancouver and I can also see why the Rangers wanted to do it (Etem is not waiver exempt and they don't have room for him in their playoff drive, especially if they pick up a rental or two.) I am struck by how much interest there is. This thread alone has 19 pages already, not to mention the new prospect thread for Etem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: How about all three go, and Guance and Shinkaruk come up? Haha wishful thinking, i like shinkaruk in the ahl at the moment. Would love to see Gaunce come up for a couple games at the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, goblix said: I guess the people who lose out the most on this deal are Grenier and Gaunce. Etem being waiver eligible makes 1 more hurdle for them to get in the NHL. on the flip side maybe the addition of Etem makes Burrows / Higgins / Prust expendable Sedin Sedin Hansen Burrows Sutter Virtanen Baertschi Horvat Etem Gaunce/Dorsett McCann/Cracknell Grenier Prust, Vrbata, and Higgins gone at the deadline. Vey back to Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Just now, DeNiro said: Sedin Sedin Hansen Burrows Sutter Virtanen Baertschi Horvat Etem Gaunce/Dorsett Cracknell Grenier Prust, Vrbata, and Higgins gone at the deadline. Vey back to Utica. For Vey, is there a Utica Sweden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Equal trade for once. Jensen was rushed too hard with Torts; so much raw potential but couldn't get it together . Etem has same thing going got to think this is his last shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 i say virtanen back to junior etem to take his roster spot if other holes need to be filled.. fill them with utica players i'd prefer vey to stay over virtanen, he needs more seasoning say what they want about his nhl ready body, he is not ready, and this is one player we do risk ruining by rushing him he has had a very fair opportunity to make it with the canuck team unlike mccann, and horvat last year, who are/were both ready, jake is not the organization must do the right thing with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, timberz21 said: lol 7th rounder is meaningless, the trade would have happen neway. JB seems easy to give away those pick to close the deal, if the deal is made its not the addition of a late pick that going to make it fall through. I don't mind him giving him, as long as some times he gets the additional one, but he never does. It's a 6th rounder for the record. You see late round picks tossed into trades all the time. Personally if I was a Rangers fan, getting that pick would make me feel a little better about the deal. It's a lottery ticket to help balance things out. I believe the term "counter balance" is often used in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Haven't been a fan of JB trades so far but I think Jensen had run his course here and players have taken his place so a second chance project instead sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 First round draft picks on Canucks roster Etem Baertschi Higgins Horvat Mccann Sedin (x2) Sutter Virtanen Hamhuis Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpworsley Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Ray Ferraro: "#Canucks won the trade. Etem has more potential to be an impact player. He's a powerful skater & built like a tank." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Will this be another Sven Baertchi , a former number one given up on to soon, or a Cory Conacher former number one now playing in Switzerland ? It makes me wonder when two teams have given up on Eten already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Decent move, seems similar to the moves to get Baertschi and Vey (Jensen likely doesn't have much value, and along with the 5th it might equate to a near-NHL ready guy in Emerson, or the 2nd given up to get the first two guys). With the Tiger trend, what's next, Kris Russell and... Cam Barker to Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I think a trade at this level (low) is distracting,. and far too speculative. Perhaps its a way to stack and hold better value than that of Jensen. Lets not forget that this is the NHL, and not the WHL. Interesting times ahead, i wish Mr Etem the best of luck with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 go look up Jensen - NEVER BROKE 30 GOAL MARK IN JR. - i am not sure why this guy was: 1.Ever rated a first round pick above a guy named Jenner who was a center, rugged and had more points 2.chosen in the first round 3. thought of as a future top 6 nhl player 4. still belived to be a future NHL player this kid represents all that was wrong with the Gillis drafting era or the nonis drafting scouts that gillis did not fire. They pick jensen because of his size (he is not a physical player) after the canucks got beat by the bruins. They picked him based on position as gillis said they already had schroeder and hodgson and did not need another center (pfff). They picked him because they said he was a good goal scorer - he has never really been an elite goal scorer at any level. What he does do is score goals in streaks but these streaks are rare. IMO JB got something for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: I think a trade at this level (low) is distracting,. and far too speculative. Perhaps its a way to stack and hold better value than that of Jensen. Lets not forget that this is the NHL, and not the WHL. Interesting times ahead, i wish Mr Etem the best of luck with the Canucks. Etem performed well at the AHL level too, which is something Jensen has yet to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlphaHoneyBadger Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, timberz21 said: lol 7th rounder is meaningless, the trade would have happen neway. JB seems easy to give away those pick to close the deal, if the deal is made its not the addition of a late pick that going to make it fall through. I don't mind him giving him, as long as some times he gets the additional one, but he never does. Lundquist, Zetteberg, Vrbata and Rinne disagree with your first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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