canuktravella Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 no one cares about a letter on a jersey he wants a cup not a letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 51 minutes ago, Canucks Prophet said: Yes, he will get it next season. I don't see Hamhuis and Burrows keeping theirs (they've been alternating this season). Bo is the logical choice. If Hamhuis and Burrows are still around next year, it would be pretty disrespectful to strip them of the A so that third-year Horvat can have it. There's really no rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 He still works his tail off even when he isn't scoring. If that's not leadership I don't know what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wrong, wrong, wrong. It would be a confidence booster for him to strap on the A. Or no, keep it on burr or edler, they are definitely doing the right things on the ice to keep the A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 38 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I agree with the posters above.....Bo has just started to regain his confidence, lets let him just play for now, he is the guy, but in a year or two. Just an extra thought on this, but you don't have to wear a "C" to a leader. I am sure everyone on the bench is watching Bo right now. What I have seen in the past dozen games is BO's will....very focused! Toew's like, but with personality Bo has had a great run for the last 6 games. But obviously you don't give a guy an "A" for a short hot streak, or even for a long hot streak. As janis said, he is only just now finding his game. (And, although it is somewhat misleading, he is still -20 and is scoring a less than the .5 PPG baseline that you want from the 2C position on a good team. His teammates obviously like and respect him, but he is still "one of the young guys". If he has a strong finish this season, getting to maybe 14 or 15 goals and 30+ pts, combined with solid defensive play, then he would obviously get consideration next year. But the Sedins will not be losing their letters and Tanev would be a strong candidate assuming Hammer is not back. And, while Sutter has obviously not done enough for the Canucks to consider him for the A next year, it might still cause a few ruffled feathers if Bo gets the A instead. I think Bo will be a significantly better player than Sutter, but you want a guy to really show it before giving him the letter. And Burrows would probably convert his part-time A to full-time if he is still with the team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 no, don't put more pressure on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I wonder what Burrows says to the team to motivate them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: If Hamhuis and Burrows are still around next year, it would be pretty disrespectful to strip them of the A so that third-year Horvat can have it. There's really no rush. With 12 points in 44 games, I think Burrows has other things to worry about than just keeping his A. Like keeping his job, for instance, But now that I think about it, I would like Hamhuis to keep the A, I always respected him a lot as a player and a person in the community. My ideal scenario is Hamhuis retiring with the Canucks, but only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: I wonder what Burrows says to the team to motivate them? Finish your checks or I'll give you a sleeeeew foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: I wonder what Burrows says to the team to motivate them? "come on boys, let's go out dare and win da turd!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I agree, Bo should get an "A" ...... for being awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Since we're on the topic of Bo, I just thought that I'd point out that Kesler is one point behind Bo Horvat in points and assists. Pretty sure we don't miss Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 50 minutes ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: I wonder what Burrows says to the team to motivate them? "I'll beat you guys worse than your Daddies if you don't win da turd eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckleheads fan Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yes, let's give the kid the "C" and while we're at it name him the next Messier, and make him coach and GM and team president. Good lord some people are dumb/impatient. He has struggled all year until the last 6 games or so because he was put in a position for which he was not ready. He has finally figured things out, and has played better. So now some think he's over the hump. I hate to tell you, six or eight games is a really small sample size. He has the rest of the season to play and work on his game. This team is obviously not very good. The guys with the letters get a lot of scrutiny during rough patches. That scrutiny can cause players to press. As we saw from Bo earlier in the season, pressing does not improve his game. As was said above, a player does not need a letter to be a leader. Bo's a 20 year old kid, let him grow up some more. He might be ready for a letter when Hank retires, until then, let him continue to improve without the added pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 44 minutes ago, JamesB said: Bo has had a great run for the last 6 games. But obviously you don't give a guy an "A" for a short hot streak, or even for a long hot streak. As janis said, he is only just now finding his game. (And, although it is somewhat misleading, he is still -20 and is scoring a less than the .5 PPG baseline that you want from the 2C position on a good team. His teammates obviously like and respect him, but he is still "one of the young guys". If he has a strong finish this season, getting to maybe 14 or 15 goals and 30+ pts, combined with solid defensive play, then he would obviously get consideration next year. But the Sedins will not be losing their letters and Tanev would be a strong candidate assuming Hammer is not back. And, while Sutter has obviously not done enough for the Canucks to consider him for the A next year, it might still cause a few ruffled feathers if Bo gets the A instead. I think Bo will be a significantly better player than Sutter, but you want a guy to really show it before giving him the letter. And Burrows would probably convert his part-time A to full-time if he is still with the team next year. I agree with most everything you said, except for the ruffled feathers. If Horvat is a natural leader then he becomes the natural choice. I do think it's a bit early yet though. I don't know if I get big assistant leadership vibes from Tanev. He's as cool as a cucumber, and easily the most consistent dman for the last few seasons, and I hope he sticks with us for a while yet, but is he a voice of the team? I just don't know. Does he have a voice? As you say though, he is a strong candidate, considering his gameplay, and our alternatives. I have to think that one of Burr or Hammer is relived of assistant captaincy next season as either part of changing of the guard, or from trade deadline movement. Sutter is more experienced, but has he made enough of an impression to quantify an A yet? Daniel is cemented in, for arguments sake one of Burr/Hamhuis, and barring a game changing trade the last letter goes to one of Sutter/Tanev/Horvat, in that order, at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Bo will have the C in a few years. He's fine for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 2 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: It's time Bo Horvat is given an 'A'... I agree...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Last time we proposed giving a letter to a 20 year old, he ended up asking for a trade and is now out of the league. Just let him play, no need to try and build hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 2 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: I thought it would not be till next season that Bo would really deserve the 'A'. But it's clear for the last 10+ games, he is ready. Henrik is the Captain till he retires... that is a given, but looking over the rest of the team, and who is taking the leadership role, there is no question Bo is the guy next to Hank and Dank who makes this team go. It's time Bo Horvat is given an 'A'... he has shown all season, even when he was no producing offensively, that he was willing to step up, put himself on the line, take on the weight of the team on his shoulders, and inspire by example. Time to do it Willie. Not now. Let him adapt to this very important step in his career; discovering what he is capable of. Let him develop with less political pressure and more responsibility on the ice as the 2C; not an easy feat to accomplish. Let him own it. He is beast. Let him feel it. It is infectious to the soul of all other rookies thereon coming in. McCann, Virtanen, Vey, Etem and Baertschi all fighting for the minutes Horvat is starting to take on. Instead of a Kesleresque jealousy, there is healthy competition in an environment where nothing is given. The Sedins' peak is starting to be exposed as the upcoming kids are gaining power. An A to Horvat to start the year next year as the Sedins play out their last contract as 1st liners minute-wise. If Horvat keeps developing like this, he isn't too far away from getting the C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Personally I don't like the idea of young players getting C's or A's. Look at it from a players perspective; if you were a 30+ year old player on the team and there's a 21 year old wearing the "A" or "C" ahead of you, how would that make you feel? You're a guy that has a family and commitments and responsibilities, and yet, you have to listen to a guy that's 10 years younger whose mother probably still cooks for him and he's essentially your leader. It creates awkwardness and possibly dysfunction amongst a team. IMO to earn a C there's 3 conditions. 1. You have to be a certain age and responsible/mature enough to lead a team 2. You have to have been on the team for an amount of years, probs 2-4 years. Can't just sign a FA and hand him the C right away 3. You obviously can't be a plug In Horvat's situation there's really nothing different. Yea it looks good on him for the fans he's a big piece to our future. But to just strip the "A" off of Burrows would be disgraceful not only to him but to other guys like Edler, Hamhuis, Vrbata, Hansen, Sutter, and even Tanev granted some of them may not be on the team next year. Horvat's definitely not a plug and he'll have been around long enough at the start of next year IMO, but as he matures and ages he'll eventually earn it, so there's absolutely no rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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