Tystick Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I love the guy but $4mil is a bit much. Sautner or Teves could play the same spot for $1mil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redhdlois Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, FlyLow_ said: And another asset lost for nothing, awesome! Surprised it took until the second page for this comment to appear...... 2 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, redhdlois said: Surprised it took until the second page for this comment to appear...... hey I did mention Corrado! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Its up to him now, how much he likes being in Vancouver. This isn't the first time we've decided not to qualify someone and then signed them a few days later to a more favorable contract. Hutton's problem is timing. If cap went to 83 million this year, 4 million may have been realistic for him, but with it coming in at 81.5, suddenly there's going to be a bunch of players, all in roughly the same range of competency, all looking for new NHL contracts so that they don't have to go play in Europe for less. I think if he's willing to sign for 3 million, deal probably gets done. If he wants more than that, I think he's going to have trouble finding another team willing to give him that much and he could just as easily wind up taking less to stay in the NHL. 5/6 D are a commodity now, their value will be set by the cap and availability. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Higgins Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Montreal is looking for a LD, maybe we can trade him there, cale fleury is worth taking a chance on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: I say give Brisebois and Sautner a chance to take his place. They cost 1/4 of what he does and can likely do as much. We just don't need Hutton at 4mill+. I like him more than most, but we don't need him. We clearly need a top 4 RHD by we don't need Hutton. Edler Stecher Hughes Tanev Sautner Biega Brisebois Rafferty Juolevi(if he is recovered?) incoming Meyers/Gardner Tryamkin Woo Rathbone Don't forget Teves on the left and Chatfield and Eliot on the right. But yes, top 4 RD is certainly a need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So much for Hutton as an asset. Was hopeful we could trade him and get something back, but no question his time in our lineup was ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 If the Canucks don't qualify Hutton, then as much as it sucks to face the possibility of losing an asset, all the power to him to test other teams to see if he can get a more lucrative deal than what the Canucks would be willing to give him. Losing players by not qualifying them happens from time to time and is one of the risks GMs take when rewarding a player with a contract early. It doesn't help that arbitration can inflate the dollars even more (though it is otherwise intended to protect players as well). If the Canucks lose Hutton in FA and gain Burakovsky as a FA (just as an example), then I don't see the whole situation working out too bad. As for the Canucks' D, while it remains to be seen what management does with existing roster players not named Edler and Hughes (I'm assuming Stecher might actually be considered expendable as much as it would suck to see him moved), replacing Hutton with a less expensive, veteran depth D might actually work out better for the team. They can insulate their younger D in the NHL and let Juolevi break down the door to the NHL while playing big minutes in Utica. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said: If the Canucks don't qualify Hutton, then as much as it sucks to face the possibility of losing an asset, all the power to him to test other teams to see if he can get a more lucrative deal than what the Canucks would be willing to give him. Losing players by not qualifying them happens from time to time and is one of the risks GMs take when rewarding a player with a contract early. It doesn't help that arbitration can inflate the dollars even more (though it is otherwise intended to protect players as well). If the Canucks lose Hutton in FA and gain Burakovsky as a FA (just as an example), then I don't see the whole situation working out too bad. As for the Canucks' D, while it remains to be seen what management does with existing roster players not named Edler and Hughes (I'm assuming Stecher might actually be considered expendable as much as it would suck to see him moved), replacing Hutton with a less expensive, veteran depth D might actually work out better for the team. They can insulate their younger D in the NHL and let Juolevi break down the door to the NHL while playing big minutes in Utica. The cap creates a whole lot of fun and funny situations. Going to be interesting. Teams have some really hard decisions in front of them When does the whole qualify vs not qualified list come out? I think its tomorrow afternoon, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Sticking up for a teammate (Pacquette was the douche that took a run at Petey last season and tried to fight Boeser) if Jordie Benn is the replacement? sign me up! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Tanev 4.5M + hutton + sutter 4.38M for ristolainen 5.4M + Scandella 4M Boom Edler Ristolainen Hughes Meyers Scandella Stecher Juolevi Schenn Trade hutton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Trade hutton ? 47 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Yea, hutton, tanev and sutter for ristolainen and scandella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: not that I want Gardiner, I don't. But 4.3 in arbitration for Hutty vs. 6.5 for Gardiner is kind of a no-brainer. That is a very good way to look at it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 People seem to forget how bad our D has been. He is not a solution to the problem. We have guys in the system that could do just as well as he did and they have much more upside. He tried to make it and was given a good chance to succeed. Things just didn't work out. Time to move on let some of the kids play. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Trebreh said: Sticking up for a teammate (Pacquette was the douche that took a run at Petey last season and tried to fight Boeser) if Jordie Benn is the replacement? sign me up! I have no issues with bringing in Benn on the right deal. He was actually quite solid for the Habs last year. He's also been rather durable. Edited June 24, 2019 by Gnarcore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Why is Hutton's arbitration numbers in the $4m+ range? To my understanding. It's partially due to the big contract Jim gave him last time around combined with his high minutes played. He probably walks which is fine by me. Hutton looked like he was going to be amazing we tried to get ahead of the curve and it bit us in the buns. it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, luckylager said: Guy's a beauty, but didn't play up to his contract. Showed so much promise in that rookie year but hasn't managed to take the next step. It's too bad. Good luck Smiley Ben Yes good luck Smiley Hutton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Do you get the sense Dhaliwal isn't helping the Canucks with all this leaked information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 After all the Tanev and Edler missed games where Hutton and Stetcher had to be our top pair , I find it hard to just cut the guy loose. Hopefully something better comes out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I liked Ben’s personality on the team but he isn’t worth 4 mil. I’d also like to add some veteran snarl (Dillon, Benn) to our 3LD to pair with Stech. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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