CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-lose-three-from-amateur-scouting-staff?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1562278399 Quote Jim Benning looking to restructure Canucks' amateur scouting department Despite earning plaudits for the work of their scouts in recent drafts, Vancouver Canucks management is nonetheless making changes to their scouting staff. Three scouts, Chris MacDonald, Dan Palango and Paul Gallagher, have all been removed from the Canucks’ website in recent days. Canucks general manager Jim Benning confirmed the departure of the trio on Thursday but wouldn’t go into details. The last time the Canucks made significant changes to their scouting department was in 2017. “We’re going to re-structure the amateur scouting staff,” Benning said. “We’re going to have new people take on more responsibilities, some guys that have worked for us, that have been in charge of different areas.” Further details would be announced later this month, he added. MacDonald left the Canucks to pursue a higher-profile position with another NHL team, but Benning wouldn’t say which team as his hiring hasn’t been officially announced yet. He confirmed both Palango and Gallagher were let go by the club but he wouldn’t elaborate on the reasons why. Based in Kingston, MacDonald’s most recent role with the Canucks had him scouting in Ontario and Quebec. Benning said MacDonald’s hiring was a testament to the quality of the scouting staff he and director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett have assembled. “Other organizations are looking at our people and looking to give them higher opportunities and I take pride in that,” he said. Both MacDonald and Palango were hired by the Canucks while Mike Gillis was general manager, but that didn’t play into their departures, Benning said. A good portion of the Canucks’ current scouting staff were originally hired by Benning’s predecessors, Gillis, Dave Nonis and Brian Burke. Still, in Palango’s case, it is perhaps also notable that he worked as a player agent with Gillis’s agency before he became the Canucks’ GM in 2008. Palango was based in Ontario and served as a cross-checker, taking a second look at players his colleagues had been watching. Gallagher had been with the Canucks for the past two seasons, after a long career scouting the maritimes and Quebec for the Florida Panthers. pjohnston@postmedia.com twitter.com/risingaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D-Money Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) It should be pretty easy to figure out who are quality scouts. Just pull up their old reports, and see how accurately they forecasted everyone. Edited July 4, 2019 by D-Money 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VegasCanuck Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Trust in Benning! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) No need for scouts, we will just trade all of our first rounders Edited July 5, 2019 by Bure_Pavel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Is this an Aquilini ordered penny pinching move? Benning said some guys will be taking on more responsibility. Add that to JB doing double duty, and ??? I love the team JB has built, but something in me doesn’t trust our owner. Tell me I’m wrong, and I’m just an old man barking at the moon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I am confident they know what they are doing - but it makes me nervous to see them tinkering with something that seems to be working well as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: Is this an Aquilini ordered penny pinching move? Benning said some guys will be taking on more responsibility. Add that to JB doing double duty, and ??? I love the team JB has built, but something in me doesn’t trust our owner. Tell me I’m wrong, and I’m just an old man barking at the moon. Quite possible. As with any business, you have to balance the books. Cut where you can to maintain a profit. Maybe this is a pre-cursor to send LE down to Utica. LE will still be paid $6M in Utica but only relieving the Canucks of $1M in cap space (what I heard on the radio). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quantum Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 I got excited for a sec thinking this was about the pro scouting department, not the amateur scouting department. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Over the Canucks history drafting has been, lets put it mildly,just fricken terrible. These new changes can't be as bad as some of our moves from years gone by,and Mr. Benning seems to have a real ability to pick up some good later round draft picks. Now if we could only have some real luck at the LOTTO DRAFT,(we have gone the wrong way in drafting order for an unprecendented 4 years in a row)we could be a contender for the Stanley Cup sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanuck Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 I was less worried about amateur scouting than I was about pro-scouting. Too many incoming NHL guys not being as advertised imo. Vrbata, Vey, Etem, Prust, Loui, MDZ, Gags, Schaller, Spooner, ect.... I get that we were desperate there for depth/scoring for a long time and not every guy's gonna work out long-term, but too many of these guys were total busts imo. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: Is this an Aquilini ordered penny pinching move? Benning said some guys will be taking on more responsibility. Add that to JB doing double duty, and ??? I love the team JB has built, but something in me doesn’t trust our owner. Tell me I’m wrong, and I’m just an old man barking at the moon. I can see the resemblance... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I heard Sid, Alf & Tomatosaucy(Devil's advocate) might get pilfered from CDC! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Fanuck said: I was less worried about amateur scouting than I was about pro-scouting. Too many incoming NHL guys not being as advertised imo. Vrbata, Vey, Etem, Prust, Loui, MDZ, Gags, Schaller, Spooner, ect.... I get that we were desperate there for depth/scoring for a long time and not every guy's gonna work out long-term, but too many of these guys were total busts imo. I dont know. In previous years the Canucks werent much of a desirable destination, and JB has made it clear he doesnt like icing a strictly all young team. I think you can definitely make the case that all the vets that have been signed have been character individuals. Vrbata even was a great signing for his first year at least. A lot of the guys ebded up being place holders which to be fair, isnt all that surprising given the circumstances 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I heard on 1040 that one of the scouts got offered a higher role from another team so...just a basic clean-up for the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, Alflives said: Is this an Aquilini ordered penny pinching move? Benning said some guys will be taking on more responsibility. Add that to JB doing double duty, and ??? I love the team JB has built, but something in me doesn’t trust our owner. Tell me I’m wrong, and I’m just an old man barking at the moon. your just an old man, catting around. i’m not close enough to the team and operation to really know and i don’t want to speculate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, kloubek said: I am confident they know what they are doing - but it makes me nervous to see them tinkering with something that seems to be working well as it is... As long as they keep Judd we're fine but i bet benning will let him be the one in on whomever is hired to replace them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Is this an Aquilini ordered penny pinching move? Benning said some guys will be taking on more responsibility. Add that to JB doing double duty, and ??? I love the team JB has built, but something in me doesn’t trust our owner. Tell me I’m wrong, and I’m just an old man barking at the moon. Is that glowing orange fur turning grey alf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Chris McDonald's most recent job had been to scout Quebec and Ontario, and considering that we haven't pulled anything of relevance out of the OHL or the QMJHL recently, I really don't think it's a big loss. Edited July 4, 2019 by 48MPHSlapShot 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayor MCcheese Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Pro scouting is the department that needs a restructuring. I'd say a complete purging actually. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Fanuck said: I was less worried about amateur scouting than I was about pro-scouting. Too many incoming NHL guys not being as advertised imo. Vrbata, Vey, Etem, Prust, Loui, MDZ, Gags, Schaller, Spooner, ect.... I get that we were desperate there for depth/scoring for a long time and not every guy's gonna work out long-term, but too many of these guys were total busts imo. I'd argue the bolded players came exactly as advertised. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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