[Signing] Canucks sign Micheal Ferland

[aGENT]

16 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

I wouldn't consider Sutter's too terrible if he could stay healthy, but he missed most of last season and a significant amount of time the year before that. His production took a significant hit this season as well. I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned that contract of his is predicated on the idea that he can stay healthy and produce consistently. If he can't, then it just isn't worth it imho. Hopefully he can rebound this season with the added depth and easier schedule.

 

As far as the Beagle contract goes, I've never been a fan of it. A pretty significant cap hit for 33 year old that doesn't provide a ton of offense. I understand that you need these guys to take the significant amount of defensive draws so you don't have to rely on your top two centers to take a huge percentage of them, but I just think it's too much money and too much term. And again, injuries play a factor. He only played 57 games this year.

 

With both him and Sutter being out for so much of the season, Bo's deployment was affected and he spent as much time taking D zone draws as he did in the offensive zone, which could have affected his numbers negatively. Bottom line is they both have to remain relatively healthy for those contracts to be anywhere near worth it. 

Ok... but that makes his injuries bad, not his contract. And I'll remind people that he had barely missed a game before coming here. It's not like Benning gave him the contract with a major injury history.

 

And disagree on Beagle. He's basically a top 5 4C with elite fitness and leadership oozing out of every pore. Would three years have been better? Sure. But I'm sure not REMOTELY losing any sleep over it. And I far prefer it to not having him by not offering it.

 

As for his injury, he broke his arm blocking a shot. He's not fragile.

[DeNiro]

So looking at our list of potential 15-20+ goal scorers now we've got:

 

Pettersson

Horvat

Boeser

Miller

Ferland

Pearson

Virtanen

Sutter (If healthy)

Baertschi

Leivo

 

That's 10 guys that I would say all have a legit chance to score 15-30 goals if they stay healthy. That's a great sign for our offense and a big change from last season if it pans out.

 

[48MPHSlapShot]

For everyone worried about the cap situation in two years when Petey comes up....

 

Edler is up - 6 mill

Tanev is up - 4.45 mill

Sutter is up - 4.375 mill

Pearson is up - 3.75 mill

Baertschi is up - 3.366 mill

Leivo is up- 1.5 mill

Benn is up - 2 mill

Spooner hit is gone- 1 mill

 

There are a couple more guys that are up after this season as well.

 

Ceiling likely rises as well. Let's be conservative and say 3 mill. 

 

That's roughly 30 mill in space. Granted, some of that will be used to resign players, but still, anybody worrying about where the money is going to come from in 2 years isn't paying attention. We should also assume that a few players will be on entry level deals as well. 

 

Edited July 11, 2019 by 48MPHSlapShot

[riffraff]

4 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I do.   The Canuck management does.   Most professional sports franchises do.    Some don't.   Their choice.   I choose to be a fan of a team that builds itself around quality individuals and that is what I see Jim Benning and company doing.   You clearly don't give a sh*t and that is more than fine.   

 

Follow whatever "dirtbags" you want to.    In my world, just because something isn't "illegal" doesn't make it the right thing to do.   I understand others live by a different code - count them as your type.

 

 

 

Edited July 11, 2019 by riffraff

[iceman64]

5 hours ago, stawns said:

That's true of every player in the league.  That said, as much as he's one of my favourite Canucks, I don't see a spot for him, unless they can unload LE.......which I don't see happening.  If they could magically move LE, this is a beauty of a fwd lineup

 

Ferland Petey Boes

Pearson Bo Miller

Baer Sutter Virt

Roussel Beagle Leivo 

Motte

 

Every line can score with skill, every line can at least handle themselves defensively and every line has some pushback........the bottom 9 look absolutely nasty to play against.  To me, that might be one of the most balanced lineups in the league.  Maybe not the best, but there are no weak links there.  TG can roll those 4 lines every night.

 

Baer is probably gone, redundant, and not really suited a 3rd-4th line roll and probably become a trade for a 2-3 round pick.. however our roster has to be scaled back and we might have some holes to fill bottom six soon that we may not like but cap is cap right? I wish that tv contract was done to see if it ups the cap much (yes it's just a maybe) until it happens but here's hoping it does..

Edited July 11, 2019 by iceman64

[MeanSeanBean]

42 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Sutter doesn't need a a playmaker as he is where pucks go to die.....

Sutter played his best offensive hockey as a Canuck on a line with the twins, great playmakers. So if you're trying to squeeze more offense out of him, that's just plain wrong

[austy]

16 minutes ago, CanuckGAME said:

 

I was one of those guys who hated Ferland in '15 because he was single handedly embarrassing us.

 

BUT.  I respected him and liked his style.   

 

2 guys I could never get behind if they ever  became Canucks are Lucic and Marchand.  The hate is real with those 2.

I feel the same, the guy has been 'living in our heads for 3 years he may as well come live on our city too lol.

[CoaastGxd]

1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

 

Canucks may have found their bumper player in the 1-3-1 set up in Ferland.  That is huge.  Will keep defenders honest on the powerplay and will indirectly give Pettersson and Boeser more room on the half wall. 

 

Very shrewd pick up by Jim.

That's hockey baby!

[N4ZZY]

11 hours ago, Borvat said:

I am listening to the endless whining on 650 about too many players and the resulting issues and that Benning doesn't understand what he has done to himself.  Pathetic.  

650 a bunch of whiners. Same with 1040. But negativity seems to sell right? We have one of the worse sports talk personalities on the planet. Really is unfortunate that we aren’t given more quality in that regard. 

[nux4lyfe]

Love this signing! We got our Burrows 2.0!

[SynysterGates]

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

3 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Petey alone is worth the price of admission.

 

The grit and character we added is the gravy on top.

 

I like being the underdog with something to prove though. Let the media rip on us. 

Meanwhile we get to watch Petey and Co rip a few pucks past opposing goalies. 

[18W-40C-6W]

3 hours ago, Gollumpus said:

I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I think I get your meaning. This being said, there have been a lot of Canucks teams with a whole lot more jam this team, and they could even throw in some marmalade as well. 

 

                                                 regards,  G.

I would disagree, the combination of speed and size is unlike anything I have seen as a fan. Sure we've had some big players, Momesso, Hunter, Antoski, Gino, etc. but Never have we had big guys who can hit and score and skate like this imho

[DeNiro]

8 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Meanwhile we get to watch Petey and Co rip a few pucks past opposing goalies. 

 

[Butters Stoch]

11 minutes ago, SynysterGates said:

Also can't pronounce Boeser. Doesn't seem like the brightest guy but at least he's a good hockey player.

[ruilin96]

4 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

 

This just occur to me that Micheal Ferland is sign for the same cap hit as Brandon Tanev 

[Gollumpus]

3 hours ago, hammertime said:

He will not require protection from everything i have seen.

Could be. What I'm going by is that at the time of the draft (June 2021), a player with a NMC has to be protected. Ferland's NMC expires in July 2021 when a M-NTC becomes active. 

 

I suppose it's not too important a point, as Ferland will likely be one of the guys on the Canucks' protected list (based on the current roster).

 

                                                            regards,  G.

[stawns]

27 minutes ago, iceman64 said:

Baer is probably gone, redundant, and not really suited a 3rd-4th line roll and probably become a trade for a 2-3 round pick.. however our roster has to be scaled back and we might have some holes to fill bottom six soon that we may not like but cap is cap right? I wish that tv contract was done to see if it ups the cap much (yes it's just a maybe) until it happens but here's hoping it does..

Though I do think Baer has a decent enough two way game to play with Sutter, I think the advantage is that it adds a legitimate scoring presence to the third line.  They'd likely get very favourable matchups and could really be the offensive depth they've been looking for.

 

However, that would likely mean that they would have to find a taker for LE, so it's not very probable.

[Smashian Kassian]

12 hours ago, theo5789 said:

If those past contracts keep Gardiner out of here, then thank goodness. I'd argue without those contracts, guys like Ferland might want to take on more to eat up the wiggle room we would have. Beagle is excellent, Sutter if healthy is fine and Schaller could easily be waived, so no problems here. Eriksson is overpaid, but you don't plan for a free agency 3 years down the road because who knows who would actually be available then and be willing to sign here.

 

You should be planning for down the road, or atleast be conscious of it.

 

Getting Ferland came down to the extra year, not the amount of space. Even if we had more Id hope we wouldnt just give it away, the deal he got with the 4 years is perfectly fine. Its a good signing.

 

Sutter staying healthy is an 'if' at this point. And Id argue we are paying him to contribute more offensively than he has aswell.

 

Jay Beagle is a fine player, I like him in his role, but we did pay a premium to get him.

[JM_]

its like Shane O'Brien and Burrows had a love child.