PhillipBlunt Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I guess it would be Karlsson and either Glass or Marchassault (who I think can play center). Definitely lacking the number 1 center you typically see on cup winners. Without Statsny, one could say that they lack a legit #2 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DarkIndianRises said: Honestly, As much as I love this trade for us, Vegas’ GM should be fired for making that deal. I get the fact that Vegas was in a very tough spot once they signed AP, but that could have and should have been planned much better. I’m not exaggerating when I say that this was one of the most lobisded deals in NHL history. Glad that we were the beneficiaries. Vegas knows they have to retool with that gifted roster, which has probably peaked and subsequently in need of cap management. They know the long game and are playing both sides of the fence no different than JB has or is here, IMO. So what if they have a lesser team this year, it might be a developmental and transitional year or two anyways. They can reload next UFA season on exactly what they just gave up. They can also still make trades. I’d love to see them do a major retool actually, not as a rival fan of course, I don’t want to peak at the same time as them, but I’d like to watch a successful management of what they were gifted, into a young team with a future. That or make trades to remain a contender, which they pretty much are. Edited October 13, 2020 by 189lb enforcers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Without Statsny, one could say that they lack a legit #2 as well. Wonder if they’ll be looking for another center back in their next deal. A lot to put on Glass who may or may not be ready. Edited October 13, 2020 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Wonder if they’ll be looking for another center back in their next deal. A lot to put on Glass who may or may not be ready. Exactly. Sutter's a solid center. Sutter for McNabb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rekker Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Could you imagine if Dubas aquired Nate for a third. My god, the internet would crash. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boziffous Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I've read through a lot of this thread and I've seen it mentioned several times that Schmidt isn't a top 2 defenseman. Based on his ice time alone over the past 3 regular seasons and playoffs for Vegas he was most certainly a top 2 defenseman for the Knights. Nate Schmidt average TOI over the past 3 regular seasons and playoffs. The # in parentheses is where he ranked among Vegas players for average time on ice per game. 2017/18 reg season 22:14/gm (1st) 2017/18 playoffs 24:09/gm (1st) 2018/19 reg season 21:57/gm (1st) 2018/19 playoffs 22:38/gm (4th) 2019/20 reg season 21:40/gm (2nd) 2019/20 playoffs 23:01/gm (1st) Over the last 3 regular seasons Schmidt has 135 takeaways to 135 giveaways which is pretty impressive for a defenseman to be even in the takeaway/giveaway department. Over the last 3 years of playoffs Schmidt has 46 takeaways to 47 giveaways, again pretty impressive. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Looking at it another way, if you had to rank the defensemen that have moved this offseason, he is probably the second best behind AP. He also helps solve a problem we have had in that he is elite at zone entries and exits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Vegas knows they have to retool with that gifted roster, which has probably peaked and subsequently in need of cap management. They know the long game and are playing both sides of the fence no different than JB has or is here, IMO. So what if they have a lesser team this year, it might be a developmental and transitional year or two anyways. They can reload next UFA season on exactly what they just gave up. They can also still make trades. I’d love to see them do a major retool actually, not as a rival fan of course, I don’t want to peak at the same time as them, but I’d like to watch a successful management of what they were gifted, into a young team with a future. That or make trades to remain a contender, which they pretty much are. Please tell me how they can do this with already having $75 mil committed to 18 players in salaries for the 21/22 season and $55 mil committed to only 10 players in 22/23 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted October 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, rekker said: Could you imagine if Dubas aquired Nate for a third. My god, the internet would crash. instead they dumped a young 20 goal scorer....in order to give Brodie $5 million.... I think I'd prefer the extra 950k for Schmidt and moving a 3rd as opposed to Johnnson.... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I guess we "got lucky" again!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Sacrilage Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Listening to his interview. Very well spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 He is definitely a top pairing player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Sacrilage said: Listening to his interview. Very well spoken. He is fan favorite in Vegas I heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost of Sacrilage Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 "Don't tell anyone, but they are paying me to have fun every day" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel the Bure Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 So much talk about "Benning get lucky" and "it was a plan D" haha on the radio and here. I'm calling this Planned Opportunism , Benning tried to sign players/UFA cheap, not work out. Vegas get Pietrangelo and opportunity presents to get top D . Jim Benning (the MONSTER GM) strike fast and BOOM ...WELCOME to Vancouver Nate ! Planned or unplanned , what is the difference now ? Musical chairs in FA , fair game to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nergish Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ghost of Sacrilage said: "Don't tell anyone, but they are paying me to have fun every day" I honestly did not know much about Schmidt prior to this, but I'm loving this guy already. Edited October 13, 2020 by nergish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Anyways, there are gripes to have - but this isn't one of them IMO There's no gripe for me; if you read my posts in this thread you'll see that I'm ecstatic about this trade. Just that I don't think everything done/not done this off-season was all a part of the plan to bring Schmidt in for a 3rd. Benning gets all the credit from me for having a plan but not panicking to chase it, and then working out a different plan once the original(s) didn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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