FaninMex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: What I'd like to see is Pearson Beagle Sutter as third line 13-15 mins Roussel Gaud Virtanen or Change a winger for McEwen 8-10 mins That is terrible. Where is the chemistry? They all play different styles. Pearson and Sutter with Beagle kills hit play style. Gaud does not play D Rooster Gaud Virt has proven over and over that they are good if heavily sheltered but they do not work well together. Do you watch hockey or just play it on your PS4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Never know, Burr wasn't considered a top 6 but just worked hard and that's the bottom line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) On 1/27/2021 at 8:13 PM, -AJ- said: Motte is on a hot streak and I do believe he's showing more of his offensive potential this year, but I don't think he's a top six guy based off 9 games to start the season. There might be a good case to move him up to the 3rd line in coming weeks though. Motte Beagle and Roussell is the 3rd line more even strength minutes than Jake (10+) Sutter (9+) and MacEwen (8) And all 3 kill penalties And and they are out scoring the Sutter line (10)to(5) other thatn an outdated line up card what says the beagle line is not the 3rd? but back to the OP here is a fun fact about the Canucks bottom 7 through 9 games: Motte, no apples Sutter, no apples Beagle, no goals Rooster, no goals Jake no apples Gaudette no apples MacEwen no points edit- wat wood a dai wittoot a wat frum da Oldnooseman? Do you lack comprehension abilities or do you have a quota of Wats to meet daily? Edited January 29, 2021 by lmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 He scored those 5 goals playing 16:36 a night. I think he's fine where he's at. He's a vital bottom 6 piece for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: There is 2 different types of energy those that bang and crash and those that get the structure of the game Horvat doesn't make a good bottom 6 guy he is a great #2 center Motte isn't a bottom 6 guy he is a match up guy who can keep up with the best in the game Has no one really noticed his speed Thats great but when we had Burrows on our top line, we had higgins, Malhotra, Torres etc. in our bottom 6 that played that same gritty game as Burrows or Motte provided while they could also PK too. Who in our bottom 6 plays with the same tenacity as Motte in our bottom 6 while being great defensively? Roussell? no, Virtanen? no, Gaudette? no...Beagle and Sutter dont drive as hard as Motte does consistently. Put Motte on top 6, we take away one our best weapon from the bottom 6. Then we might as well play only 2 lines the whole game. Also Pearson has chemistry with Horvat, I doubt he will play as good in the bottom 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, lmm said: Motte Beagle and Roussell is the 3rd line more even strength minutes than Jake (10+) Sutter (9+) and MacEwen (8) And all 3 kill penalties And and they are out scoring the Sutter line (10)to(5) other thatn an outdated line up card what says the beagle line is not the 3rd? but back to the OP here is a fun fact about the Canucks bottom 7 through 9 games: Motte, no apples Sutter, no apples Beagle, no goals Rooster, no goals Jake no apples Gaudette no apples MacEwen no points I hope Podkolzin can come sooner so we can make our bottom 6 better. I would start Podkolzin and motte on the 3rd line amd look for maybe a shut down 2 way 3rd line center in the off season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 He reminds me of a Jannik Hansen type. Guy with great hustle and checking abilities who can chip in on offense from time to time. I wouldn't mind seeing him move up the lineup when needed but think he's ultimately at his best in a ~3rd line role. He displayed a good scoring touch in college, and now recently in the playoffs + the start of this year, so i could see him being a guy that threatens that 20 goal plateau a couple times in his career similar to Hansen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImConfused Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Well he's no Tyler Toffoli or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: From last season's playoffs to the first 9 games this season is Motte becoming a top 6 forward??? Lets look at it, 5 goals in the first 9 games If Pearson is a top 6 forward is Motte not better Motte's Determination resembles Horvats, actually I go as far as saying Motte is to our winger's as Horvat is to our centers And most importantly wouldn't a line of Motte Horvat and Hoglander look pretty good All in all IMHO it is time to promote Motte and demote Pearson. Pearson might work better against weaker competition Is Motte becoming a top 6 guy???? No, he's a top 6 in the bottom 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 And i see a couple of weeks ago someone writing its time for Motte to go. The comments, mode swings, and the subjectiveness of the comments on here is just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Motte is our Tuch. spread the threat through the whole lineup. But i will do the following as a change : Motte Gaudette Sutter Roussel Beagle Virtanen and i do think that Pearson is holding Horvat and Hoglander back. I hope sooner or later we will end up with Petersson Miller Podkolzin Hoglander Horvat Boeser Hughes Tryamkin Schmidt Hamonic Juolevi Myers no more Edler or Pearson. Edited January 28, 2021 by deus.ex.makina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, lmm said: Motte Beagle and Roussell is the 3rd line more even strength minutes than Jake (10+) Sutter (9+) and MacEwen (8) And all 3 kill penalties And and they are out scoring the Sutter line (10)to(5) other thatn an outdated line up card what says the beagle line is not the 3rd? but back to the OP here is a fun fact about the Canucks bottom 7 through 9 games: Motte, no apples Sutter, no apples Beagle, no goals Rooster, no goals Jake no apples Gaudette no apples MacEwen no points came here to say this - why move him to the third when he is already on the matchup line with more mins. I think the no A stat is down to the fact they play D first force a mistake and then players like motte and sutter then jump on it to get the goal. They are not out there to generate O but to shut down and counter if the opportunity present itself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) I've been hoping the coach gives him a chance with more offensively minded line mates since the playoffs too. Have to remember, on away games especially he the fourth line comes out to take a d-zone draw against the best in the world - and he's a huge part of our PK, so it's not like he's not used to playing against top competition. Both goals he was involved in last night were a case of driving the net and hoping for garbage, glad he's getting rewarded on the scoreboard. He's definitely making a case to use a protection spot on. Think he's so valuable in the bottom six it makes it tough for a coach to move him ... that said Pearson likely won't be back and if there ever was a time to give him some games this would be the year...and if there is an injury moving him up at this point doesn't look problematic either. Oh and wanted to add, Motte isn't playing typical 4th line minutes this year - but his ozone starts are shutdown ones for sure. Edited January 28, 2021 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, DefCon1 said: I hope Podkolzin can come sooner so we can make our bottom 6 better. I would start Podkolzin and motte on the 3rd line amd look for maybe a shut down 2 way 3rd line center in the off season. i feel like in playoffs this will be lineup miller petey hoglander virtanen horvat boeser motte sutter podkolzin macewen beagle lind edler schmidt hughes benn juolevi myers hamonic adam gaudette can be traded at deadline for a decent young d prospect sutter will not be resigned roussel eriksson waived let them play in minors they arent wirth the salary rather go with youth. beagle myers roussel eriksson not protected in expansion (hopefully one is taken at ed) we need a better young third line c any ideas on 3rd line centers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I think Motte's scoring some goals because he's got a finisher's touch. He doesn't generate much offence himself with nice passes, but he has a nose for the net for sure. As a player he works better in a checking line because the goals he's scoring are greasy ones, not pretty ones. Playing with Bo and Hoglander might be interesting but I don't think he's got enough pure offensive IQ to play in our top-6. Having a 3rd/4th liner who can play 12-15 minutes and score at a 20-30 goal pace is pretty impressive, and makes us a deeper, stronger team. Even if we end up with an injury to our top-6, I think someone like Gaudette or Virtanen will move up the lineup first sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 There is too vast a difference. Motte plays primarily against lesser competition and just has to be a little better than the bottom of the other roster to succeed. Just because a guy can do well in that role, it is not a logical jump to say that can suddenly play bigger minutes against top competition while the opposition is game planning on them. Those are just two different things. Likely the only reason Motte can have any success is that the opposition uses up all their best bullets trying to keep the Petterson and Horvat lines contained. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: because the Canucks beat a bad team in a bad way there is more holes in their game than swiss cheese I don't get why you got off topic here and talking about system and game structure. That's coaching and obviously something needs to be done, can't be losing the shot differential every game But you started a thread suggesting moving motte onto horvats line. I'm simply saying don't change a good thing, Mottes line is contributing so keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 hours ago, lmm said: Motte Beagle and Roussell is the 3rd line more even strength minutes than Jake (10+) Sutter (9+) and MacEwen (8) And all 3 kill penalties And and they are out scoring the Sutter line (10)to(5) other thatn an outdated line up card what says the beagle line is not the 3rd? but back to the OP here is a fun fact about the Canucks bottom 7 through 9 games: Motte, no apples Sutter, no apples Beagle, no goals Rooster, no goals Jake no apples Gaudette no apples MacEwen no points One could say our team uses a third shutdown line rather then a scoring one...what impresses me the most about them is they do it with very little insulation, and a lot of d-zone starts against top competition. One could definitely make a case for that. Mottes lines minutes have steadily creeped up since the playoffs ... he had a game or two with at or around 20 minutes if i re-call, of course killing penalties is a big chunk of that. As far as usage goes, our bottom six most important line for sure has become Motte/Beagle plus. Motte reminds me a little of Stone when he first played in OTT, great hand to eye - picking pockets, knocking pucks out of the air. That stuff isn't easy to do, and wouldn't at all be surprised if he can keep growing his offensive game - he should have some apples - Beagle is like LE in the sense he just can't score on those opportunities...Sutter too. That line has had a lot more chances then the scoreboard reflects, does make one wonder what Motte could do playing with Horvat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Anyone who doesn’t know that Motte is a natural offensive guy needs to do some research. He just has a work ethic that we needed in the bottom six. Motte is a utility knife, he shows up where the team needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Im shocked by the poll results. If Motte and JV traded draft positions He’d be a regular in the top 6 and JV would be on EHC Kloten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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