[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks vs. Ottawa Senators | January 28 2021 | 7 p.m. PT | SNP

[oldnews]

8 minutes ago, BCNate said:

Fine the Tkachuk punch was worth it.  Fair point.

 

I don't disagree that he leads the league in soft calls either, especially against Minnesota.

 

Again, I've never said that Myers doesn't have his assets, he certainly does.  He also comes with a fair amount of flaws as well, you seem to ignore those.  He is fine, although overpaid by a bit.  Let's say that hopefully we are legit contenders in 2-3 years, is Myers a guy you want playing 22-25 mins per night?  My answer would be a firm no, which is why I would be OK with him getting claimed.  

I'm not ignoring Myers faults - it's not my job to come here and make a point of them.  Every player has their limits - pointing them out doesn't negate their strengths - or what puts them in the position they are in.  Hughes has plenty of faults - doesn't change the fact he's a highly talented "top 4" pmd.

[BCNate]

2 minutes ago, oldnews said:

I'm not ignoring Myers faults - it's not my job to come here and make a point of them.  Every player has their limits - pointing them out doesn't negate their strengths - or what puts them in the position they are in.  Hughes has plenty of faults - doesn't change the fact he's a highly talented "top 4" pmd.

No, its not your job to point out his faults, but when you come in with the hard line stance that you did, you need to at least be ready to acknowledge them.  Coming in with the argument that it's either Myers or Gudbranson/De Zotto is ridiculous and you know that.  If Myers gets claimed, and we have that 6 mill to play with, we have options as we get a slight reprieve from our cap crunch this offseason and many teams go into cap hell again.  

[VforVasili]

42 minutes ago, oldnews said:

Besides, Virtanen 'needs' a resident homer in here in his corner - otherwise these boards are saturated with nothing but complaining about him (most of it weak one-liners that are horrible, one-dimensional assessments) - you break it up and add some entertainment value.

Literally the reason I changed username way back. It wasn't that he was my favourite player, it was the unreasonable hate spewing out of people that (as a person who doesn't live in BC so is not subject to 24/7 sports talk radio) I couldn't say was warranted based upon the player he is. And I love a player that can hit like a Mack truck once in a while when he feels like it.

 

I wonder how many people here remember the last couple of years we had Bieksa and how much a scapegoat he became on these boards. They acted like he was the worst thing to ever happen to this team. Those same people are probably now warm and fuzzy and nostalgic every time they see him on tv.

 

Sometimes when you are in the echo chamber, you don't stop to think whether what you are seeing is real, or just a validation of your own invented narrative.

[oldnews]

2 minutes ago, BCNate said:

No, its not your job to point out his faults, but when you come in with the hard line stance that you did, you need to at least be ready to acknowledge them.  Coming in with the argument that it's either Myers or Gudbranson/De Zotto is ridiculous and you know that.  If Myers gets claimed, and we have that 6 mill to play with, we have options as we get a slight reprieve from our cap crunch this offseason and many teams go into cap hell again.  

what do DelZotto or Gudbranson have to do with this discussion?  You brought them up here - not me - I think you're confusing other posts/posters.

 

it's not hard line whatsoever - it's a simple, elaborated upon counterpoint to a terrible claim that Myers is a 3rd pairing D - simply factually incorrect on various levels.

[Beary Sweet]

Another big game tonight. Hope the boys continue to play the way they have been lately. Hopefully everyone is fresh and ready to go. Back to backs are a grind and you have to find a way to get your 2nd gear going. Maybe we find it again tonight. GCG!

[IBatch]

12 minutes ago, BCNate said:

No, its not your job to point out his faults, but when you come in with the hard line stance that you did, you need to at least be ready to acknowledge them.  Coming in with the argument that it's either Myers or Gudbranson/De Zotto is ridiculous and you know that.  If Myers gets claimed, and we have that 6 mill to play with, we have options as we get a slight reprieve from our cap crunch this offseason and many teams go into cap hell again.  

That was me.   I will own it.   Saying right now, if we expose Myers and lose him we are taking a step back next year.   Could take two to fill the hole.    And if it isn't via free agency then the hole just goes into another part of the lineup. 

[BCNate]

6 minutes ago, oldnews said:

what do DelZotto or Gudbranson have to do with this discussion?  You brought them up here - not me - I think you're confusing other posts/posters.

 

it's not hard line whatsoever - it's a simple, elaborated upon counterpoint to a terrible claim that Myers is a 3rd pairing D - simply factually incorrect on various levels.

My fault, I apologize, got you and another poster mixed up.  I still stand with my opinion we would have options.

 

I never called him a 3rd pair D, I said he's on the fringes of a top 4/bottom pair.  I don't believe he is a top 4 on a legit contender.

 

Anyway, enjoy the game tonight.

[BCNate]

1 minute ago, IBatch said:

That was me.   I will own it.   Saying right now, if we expose Myers and lose him we are taking a step back next year.   Could take two to fill the hole.    And if it isn't via free agency then the hole just goes into another part of the lineup. 

I'll agree to disagree, but don't disregard your opinion.  6mill in this market gives you a ton of options in my eyes.  I don't dislike Myers, but don't think he is the only option out there for us.

 

Anyway, enjoy the game.

[Nucker 67]

Can they sweep the mini series? I think so, and I'm sure the OTT players can't wait to get back home.

 

I know they just need to TCB tonight, but the Canucks have a hellish road trip coming up. I hope they've got things sorted out for that. Pettersson looks to be almost back to normal, MIller is a grumpy F***. Does the guy ever smile? He scored and looked pi**ed off. lol  Love his competitiveness and how serious he takes winning.  "Bubble Demko" seems to be back as well. Great news. 

 

Curious as to why Gaudette has been a healthy scratch lately. Green's dog house? Maybe they didn't like that he dropped the gloves with Motte in practice a little while back.   

[kenhodgejr]

I would like to see Green try a lineup change with Motte and Hoglander moving up

 

Miller Pettersson Hoglander 

Pearson Horvat Motte 

MacEwan Gaudette Boeser 

Roussel Beagle Sutter 

 

Jake sits 

Edited January 28, 2021 by kenhodgejr

[nuck-lifer]

3 minutes ago, IBatch said:

That was me.   I will own it.   Saying right now, if we expose Myers and lose him we are taking a step back next year.   Could take two to fill the hole.    And if it isn't via free agency then the hole just goes into another part of the lineup. 

You are correct , at 6'8 it could take 2 to fill his role including a couple of Stecher's?  

 

Seriously , while Myers does run into penalty trouble and his frame can sometimes be his enemy, he can also be a force especially in the playoffs last year when he turned up his mean-o-meter and was our only Dman that had push back against the Vegas and St Louis aggressiveness. This has to be taken into consideration.

 

 

[Devron]

4 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

I would like to see Green try a lineup change with Motte and Hoglander moving up

 

Miller Pettersson Hoglander 

Pearson Horvat Motte 

MacEwan Gaudette Boeser 

Roussel Beagle Sutter 

 

Jake sits 

Not big on that 3rd line. Motte is a boost to our bottom 6. Helps us even out the lines hence being a more effective team 

[IBatch]

3 minutes ago, nuck-lifer said:

You are correct , at 6'8 it could take 2 to fill his role including a couple of Stecher's?  

 

Seriously , while Myers does run into penalty trouble and his frame can sometimes be his enemy, he can also be a force especially in the playoffs last year when he turned up his mean-o-meter and was our only Dman that had push back against the Vegas and St Louis aggressiveness. This has to be taken into consideration.

 

 

He's the only D on the team now that reminds of how every D used to play pre-lockout.   The fact he's 6'8" makes it better, not worse.   Tyler Minors deserved half his penalties, the further we went, the less they'd get called.   Some weak calls every game on both sides.   His edge is something we need - and folks that keep bringing up Tryamkin - what did he ever accomplish as an 18 year old on this league?  Yes i'd like to have him back and see what it is he can do at the NHL level (it is a lot different then the NHL right!), but he's not doing the same thing at half the price.   

Edited January 28, 2021 by IBatch

[MattJVD]

7 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Can they sweep the mini series? I think so, and I'm sure the OTT players can't wait to get back home.

 

I know they just need to TCB tonight, but the Canucks have a hellish road trip coming up. I hope they've got things sorted out for that. Pettersson looks to be almost back to normal, MIller is a grumpy F***. Does the guy ever smile? He scored and looked pi**ed off. lol  Love his competitiveness and how serious he takes winning.  "Bubble Demko" seems to be back as well. Great news. 

 

Curious as to why Gaudette has been a healthy scratch lately. Green's dog house? Maybe they didn't like that he dropped the gloves with Motte in practice a little while back.   

I think they (coaching staff) just like Sutter and Beagle at center more, moving Sutter back to center seems to be paying off so far. Although it sounds like (from the practice) that Jake took the longer skate with the extras and Gaudette did not. Possibility of Gaudette drawing back in tonight, maybe as RW on Sutter's line?

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

1 hour ago, oldnews said:

I'm not commenting on squamfan's life - merely his posts on this forum (which are a whole lot of smarm and spam).

I knew what you meant. 

Edited January 28, 2021 by Herberts Vasiljevs

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

1 hour ago, Wayne Jetski said:

I think Myers is a bit under-valued by our fan base. He plays with some snarl, eats a ton of minutes, plays both roles for special teams, and has a good amount of confidence that cascades to the younger core. My two cents- we should keep him. 

Thank you. He's been awesome for us.

[Sharpshooter]

[IBatch]

Just now, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

Thank you. He's been awesome for us.

Yes and he has done his job and done it well.   Nobody expects Pronger - but he's doing a good job.   Hope he scores a hat trick tonight and jams it down a certain bean counter element of the CDC's throat.   A bit much maybe... but i still hope he does. 

[King Heffy]

5 minutes ago, IBatch said:

He's the only D on the team now that reminds of how every D used to 

People complain about him getting penalties for clearing the crease.  It's been ages since we've even had a guy who would even make the attempt.  He's been a different player since the bubble, in a good way.

[Nuxfanabroad]

Gotta miss the live broadcast..will have to watch it tonight. Hope they get it back to .500. SNet best have the 2 Johns on the call. Enjoy it folx.