[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson

[4petesake]

30 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

I wouldn’t say nothing wrong, its maybe 500-750k too much for 3 years. Definitely not worthy of 20+ pages of whining drama queens either. 

I agree with this and I was a little surprised by it. Whining is what is done best on these boards. Remember all the handwringing about Tanev & Marky? Demko played well, Marky faltered and then everyone only complained about losing Tanev. Here’s a real world problem for you - Calgary is having to decide between exposing Giordano (their captain) or Tanev in the entry draft. Every team has big issues to deal with. While this contract might not be ideal it’s not something to lose our minds over.

[Arrow 1983]

7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

If Hoglander is better than Podkolzin then why was Podkolzin the first round pick in that draft and Hoglander the second round pick?  What information do you have that confirms Hoglander will be better than Podkolzin?  Anything?  There is nobody out there who thinks Holgander at 5'9" is going to be a better player than an equally talented Podkolzin who some people say is 6'3" 200 pounds and still growing.  

All I have ever said is that we don't know.

 

Podz could be better then EP I never said that Hoglander was better all I'm saying is that it would be stupid for a GM to say Podz is in the top 6 next season. HE HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED AND NHL Game.

 

What if Podz is terrible defensively.

 

Hoglander plays a great defensive game but lacks that pure offensive game but in the NHL coaches like when players play good defense don't believe me as Jake

Edited April 9, 2021 by Arrow 1983

[VegasCanuck]

6 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said:

For what it's worth, the Canucks under Jim Benning have now spent over 568M over the 7 years he's been here and they have 4 playoff series to show for it.

 

Pretty irresponsible if you ask me.

Go see if you can get a meeting with Aqua and show him your extensive experience in running a team, your budget and cap spend projections for the next 5 years and see if he'll give you Bennings job!

[stawns]

5 minutes ago, 4petesake said:

I agree with this and I was a little surprised by it. Whining is what is done best on these boards. Remember all the handwringing about Tanev & Marky? Demko played well, Marky faltered and then everyone only complained about losing Tanev. Here’s a real world problem for you - Calgary is having to decide between exposing Giordano (their captain) or Tanev in the entry draft. Every team has big issues to deal with. While this contract might not be ideal it’s not something to lose our minds over.

They didn't lose a lot on the ice, but a big part of their early season failures can be directly attributed to a leadership void, and if they lose Sutter, Beagle and Pearson on top of Marky and Tanev they're in trouble I think.  Intangibles matter

[Arrow 1983]

10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

If Hoglander is better than Podkolzin then why was Podkolzin the first round pick in that draft and Hoglander the second round pick?  What information do you have that confirms Hoglander will be better than Podkolzin?  Anything?  There is nobody out there who thinks Holgander at 5'9" is going to be a better player than an equally talented Podkolzin who some people say is 6'3" 200 pounds and still growing.  

I have a question do you believe Podz is coming in as a top 6 forward next season.

 

what kind of stats do you think he will put up

[captainhorvat]

What was the rush??? Did Benning really think teams were lined up to sign him in free agency for $3.25 mill per??? This management just cracks me up...

 

 

 

 

[Randy Johnson]

12 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said:

here you go! do you need help with understanding how it works?

Cool bar graph

[86Viking]

we added another 3m+ bottom 6 winger...that's Benning. Ran out of time for Toffoli but no problem signing the struggling Pearson to a deal with term...

[Drakrami]

Probably could have picked up some bargains in the offseason with that 3.25mil... 

 

Benning is haunted by losing Toffoli rofl. Since he cant find buyers for Pearson, he decides to sign him instead of being accused of losing Pearson for free. We have already seen Pearson play for 3 not so full seasons, he is ok, but not someone you want on your top6 if you are competing for the Stanley Cup. 

 

Unfortunately, Pearson is our top6. Our 3rd line is a wreck that doesn't have much punch. 

[zimmy]

34 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

only made it due to points percentage, had they lost there last game against the Islander they would have missed

But they did indeed make the playoffs even though without that last win they might not have.

 

It was your definitive assertion that they would have missed the playoffs had the season been completed fully that piqued my interest. It seemed like you were assuming they would continue to hiccup and flounder all the way to game 82, and I always find that kind of certainty from a fan/follower compelling. 

[JM_]

2 hours ago, Petey_BOI said:

only 1.9 million available after buyout, would you buy out holtby to replace him with rittich,rinne,smith? hard to say what forsbergs value is maybe he is worth a shot?

only a 500k cap hit for next year: https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/braden-holtby#results

 

But for sure we'll need a cheapie backup, at least until MD gets more games in 

[theo5789]

17 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

If Pearson scores 20+ goals each year of his new contract, then good signing. If he plays like he has this season, then WTF?

 

I thought other teams wanted Pearson. That would've been a good time for Benning to display some savvy GMing. 

So Benning re-signed a player that actual had interest around the league (=valuable player) and that's apparently a demonstration of non-savvy GMing.

 

How many 3.25 million players are regular 20+ goal scorers? He's currently the 186th highest paid forward which puts him at the bottom end of a top 6 player, which seems right in line of what he is.

 

Might need to re-evaluate the expectation versus reality.

[Bad_BOI_pete]

id say this contract is pretty fair. take a look.

 

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6. Craig Smith	BOS	30	RW, C	Right	35	6	11	17	0.49	7	85	0.07	14:53	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$3,100,000	$2,000,000
7. Ryan Dzingel	OTT	28	LW, RW, C	Left	26	8	4	12	0.46	-1	34	0.24	13:16	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$3,375,000	$3,500,000
8. Marcus Johansson	MIN	29	C, LW, RW	Left	20	5	3	8	0.40	-1	27	0.19	16:21	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$4,500,000	$4,000,000
9. Evgeni Dadonov	OTT	31	RW, LW	Left	40	11	4	15	0.38	-11	71	0.15	16:17	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$5,000,000	$3,500,000
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11. Alex Chiasson	EDM	29	RW	Right	30	6	4	10	0.33	-5	37	0.16	12:19	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$2,150,000	$2,150,000
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13. Eric Staal	MTL	35	C	Left	34	4	7	11	0.32	-21	63	0.06	15:38	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$3,250,000	$3,000,000
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15. Valtteri Filppula	DET	36	C, LW	Left	23	3	4	7	0.30	-2	11	0.27	14:38	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$3,000,000	$3,000,000
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18. Andrew Cogliano	DAL	33	LW	Left	35	5	4	9	0.26	2	58	0.09	13:20	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$3,250,000	$3,250,000
19. Carl Hagelin	WSH	31	LW	Left	39	4	6	10	0.26	3	56	0.07	14:23	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$2,750,000	$2,700,000
20. Nick Bonino	MIN	32	C	Left	37	4	5	9	0.24	-3	48	0.08	14:46	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$4,100,000	$4,100,000
21. Cal Clutterbuck	NYI	32	RW	Right	37	3	6	9	0.24	-4	39	0.08	13:22	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$3,500,000	$2,500,000
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29. Cody Eakin	BUF	29	C	Left	37	2	4	6	0.16	-6	32	0.06	13:14	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$2,250,000	$2,000,000

[Elias Pettersson]

13 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said:

All I have ever said is that we don't know.

 

Podz could be better then EP I never said that Hoglander was better all I'm saying is that it would be stupid for a GM to say Podz is in the top 6 next season. HE HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED AND NHL Game.

 

What if Podz is terrible defensively.

 

Hoglander plays a great defensive game but lacks that pure offensive game but in the NHL coaches like when players play good defense don't believe me as Jake

You've obviously never watched him play.  Podkolzin might be our best defensive forward as early as next year...

[stawns]

1 minute ago, theo5789 said:

So Benning re-signed a player that actual had interest around the league (=valuable player) and that's apparently a demonstration of non-savvy GMing.

 

How many 3.25 million players are regular 20+ goal scorers? He's currently the 186th highest paid forward which puts him at the bottom end of a top 6 player, which seems right in line of what he is.

 

Might need to re-evaluate the expectation versus reality.

if they're not young guys, they're crap

 

[JM_]

48 minutes ago, DarkIndianRises said:

I won’t pass my final judgment on this until the end of the summer as I want to see how things play out cap wise first.   My guess is that.....

 

1) Beagle will be LTIR next year

2) The Canucks have a plan in place for Eriksson.

3) Tryamkin will replace Edler

4) Boyd and Gaudette will be our 3rd and 4th line C’s (not necessarily in that order)

5) Benning expects someone to get claimed in the ED

6) Petey and Hughes will sign bridged Covid contracts (translation - for less money than we had originally expected).

 

As far as Pearson goes, the presence of Pearson or Podkolzin on the 3rd line should give us an opportunity to roll out three decent scoring lines, and one of Podz Or Pearson should be able to step into the top 6 in case of injuries.
 

that seems like the way it needs to go. That 3 and 4 C's tho.... yikes. 

 

Makes me wonder if Jim already has a deal in place to move Loui, because we really needed Pearson's salary to land a good 3C. 

 

 

[Elias Pettersson]

10 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said:

I have a question do you believe Podz is coming in as a top 6 forward next season.

 

what kind of stats do you think he will put up

Well with Pearson signed at over $3 million I think they will either play Podkolzin in his natural position at RW across from BO and Pearson and bump Hoglander down to the 3rd line, or they will keep Hoglander on his off wing and bump Podkolzin down to the 3rd line.  I think Podkolzin is set to play with BO from day one so Hoglander will probably anchor the 3rd line.  At least we will have a stud on our 3rd line.  That's the only positive I get out of this.  

[Convincing John]

I’ve said this several times before. Everyone is all pumped about this new found cap space we are going to have in 2 years. Haha, it’s going to get used up before we even get there. We will never have cap space. As long as Jim Benning is the GM of the Canucks we will always be in cap trouble. This is right on par with all his other horrific contracts. So bitterly disappointing. 

[JM_]

6 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

So Benning re-signed a player that actual had interest around the league (=valuable player) and that's apparently a demonstration of non-savvy GMing.

 

How many 3.25 million players are regular 20+ goal scorers? He's currently the 186th highest paid forward which puts him at the bottom end of a top 6 player, which seems right in line of what he is.

 

Might need to re-evaluate the expectation versus reality.

we need a 3C more tho. Where does that $ come from? 

 

Even if you like the Pearson deal, that nixed an upgrade on a more important position, imo anyway. 

[garthsbutcher]

Fire Green and Trade Jake