Solinar Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 If it is a 3 year deal, see it come in at 6.5 cap hit, but raise up to over 8 in the last year, making that the start of his negotiating point for his next contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Dumba and a first might be starting to look really good.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Brock better be at camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Solinar said: If it is a 3 year deal, see it come in at 6.5 cap hit, but raise up to over 8 in the last year, making that the start of his negotiating point for his next contract. a QO of 8 mil would be a lot more reasonable than Meier's 10 mil QO. I'd be fine if it was built to end at 8, its in line with what a guy like Kessel at the top of his game was worth, which is probably the ceiling for Brock too (which would be great). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 Dolly-Wah in full drama queen mode. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Dolly-Wah in full drama queen mode. Watch Brock get signed right after he says this. I've lost a lot of faith in Rick's sources, he seems to get his wires crossed a little too often these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Dhaliwal was flat out wrong about Edler so I’m not believing anything that moron says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) I'm starting to get anxious about this one. Edit: that said, I'm surprised cap is an isssue with a short term deal. After sending down enough players to get to a 23 man roster, we have a minimum of $6.86 million in cap. 4.16 + 2.7mil in cleared salary (I send down Biega, Goldobin, and Motte to arrive at the minimum. They are the cheapest players with a chance of being sent down). More likely that Shaller finds himself in Utica, which can give us 50 to 125k more room. Edited September 10, 2019 by MattJVD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 IMO worst case scenario is Boeser misses part of or all of camp. I doubt Jimbo and Co. want this to drag into the season and cause a distraction amongst the team especially with how high expectations are this season considering the moves made this off season. If I were a betting man, I think the sides come to a Timo Meier type deal around 7 mill per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Solinar said: If it is a 3 year deal, see it come in at 6.5 cap hit, but raise up to over 8 in the last year, making that the start of his negotiating point for his next contract. Too much imo. No more than werenski on 3 years. D vs F but still no way Boeser should get more on 3 year deal. Make it similar structure with 7 mill QO for 4th year. Timo Meier is a beast. Hes not a comparable so i don't know why Boeser thinks he deserves same or more. I think they're just trying to bend JB over. JB has to hold the line. Let Boeser sit and if it gets past November let him sit the year. Edited September 10, 2019 by WHL rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Dolly-Wah in full drama queen mode. Yup. If Boeser wants to sign a similar deal to Keller it's 8 years and around $7.25-$7.5m, which Benning should be able to JUST squeak in. The cap isn't the problem here. 49 minutes ago, The Sedge said: Watch Brock get signed right after he says this. I've lost a lot of faith in Rick's sources, he seems to get his wires crossed a little too often these days His sources aren't necessarily the 'problem'. I'm sure Boeser's agent is telling him that both sides ARE far apart. But just like with Edler, Rick seems to struggle separating the reality of the situation from the agent's spin. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 IMO A player that has never seen serious playoff time should not be making over 5 mil. But this is Boeser so yeah 6(still ridiculous for a player that hasnt really proven alot of anything.) But 7 Million? Trade that player. Your setting a dangerous precedent thats just going to escalate. Imagine the Leafs situation wherein 4 players make half of your salary cap. (Tavares,Mathews,Nylander, and probably Marner for 8-10 million.) If we had just last year gone deep into the playoffs and Boeser was a beast id be all about paying this kid 7million+ But he has proven nothing! We still dont fully know what we have until we make the playoffs. Boeser's demands are going to land him on another team 7 million is crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Warhippy said: Dumba and a first might be starting to look really good.... Id ask for more tbh... 2 firsts + dumba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Irfaan Gaffar wannabe canucks insider. This guy is the worst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 9:24 PM, VancouverHabitant said: I don't think @stawns is bashing him, just trying to speculate on the rumours that Boeser's agent is looking for 7 mil/season or more. 1. Leon Draisaitl EDM 23 C, LW, RW Left UFA $8,500,000 $9,000,000 2. Sebastian Aho CAR 21 C, LW Left UFA $8,454,000 $12,000,000 3. William Nylander TOR 23 RW, C Right UFA $6,962,366 $9,000,000 4. Johnny Gaudreau CGY 25 LW Left UFA $6,750,000 $6,750,000 5. David Pastrnak BOS 23 RW Right UFA $6,666,666 $6,800,000 6. Sean Monahan CGY 24 C Left UFA $6,375,000 $6,750,000 7. Nathan MacKinnon COL 23 C, RW Right UFA $6,300,000 $6,750,000 8. Mark Scheifele WPG 26 C Right UFA $6,125,000 $6,750,000 9. Dylan Larkin DET 22 C, LW Left UFA $6,100,000 $7,000,000 10. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins EDM 26 C, LW Left UFA $6,000,000 $6,000,000 11. Brandon Saad CHI 26 RW, LW Left UFA $6,000,000 $6,750,000 12. Filip Forsberg NSH 24 LW Right UFA $6,000,000 $6,000,000 13. Timo Meier SJS 22 LW, RW Left RFA $6,000,000 $4,000,000 14. Jake Guentzel PIT 24 LW, RW Left UFA $6,000,000 $7,000,000 15. Nikolaj Ehlers WPG 23 RW, LW Left UFA $6,000,000 $6,500,000 16. William Karlsson VGK 26 C Left UFA $5,900,000 $5,900,000 17. Aleksander Barkov FLA 23 C Left UFA $5,900,000 $6,900,000 18. Jonathan Huberdeau FLA 26 LW, C Left NMC UFA $5,900,000 $6,200,000 19. Nick Schmaltz ARI 23 C Right UFA $5,850,000 $3,000,000 20. Tomas Hertl SJS 25 C, RW Left UFA $5,625,000 $6,250,000 21. Gabriel Landeskog COL 26 LW Left M-NTC UFA $5,571,429 $6,000,000 22. Jonathan Drouin MTL 24 LW, RW, C Left UFA $5,500,000 $5,500,000 23. Bo Horvat VAN 24 C Left UFA $5,500,000 $5,775,000 24. Teuvo Teräväinen CAR 24 RW, LW Left UFA $5,400,000 $6,250,000 25. Mika Zibanejad NYR 26 C Right NMC UFA $5,350,000 $5,350,000 26. Nino Niederreiter CAR 26 LW, RW Left UFA $5,250,000 $5,850,000 27. J.T. Miller VAN 26 C, LW, RW Left UFA $5,250,000 $6,000,000 28. Tom Wilson WSH 25 RW Right UFA $5,166,666 $4,500,000 Just for comparison's sake... here are the top paid forwards in the league under the age of 27 and between 5 to 9 mil/season. Edit: First number is the cap hit. @Boeser's Agent Look at some of the names up there lets just stop at Pastrnak, Take a breath and think about this is Brock Boeser right now better than Pasta? Have fun playing in whatever team you end up on Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Our media is trying to stir up drama again, much like they did with Edler. The cap being an issue is a load of crap. It was clear for the last few months that Boeser was looking at a bridge deal, kind of like every other RFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shirotashi said: @Boeser's Agent Look at some of the names up there lets just stop at Pastrnak, Take a breath and think about this is Brock Boeser right now better than Pasta? Have fun playing in whatever team you end up on Boeser. 1.) Holy Drama batman 2.) Contracts signed 2 years ago don’t have a ton of bearing on contracts being negotiated now 3.) How do you know what Brock is asking for? Maybe you should be an insider.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shirotashi said: IMO A player that has never seen serious playoff time should not be making over 5 mil. But this is Boeser so yeah 6(still ridiculous for a player that hasnt really proven alot of anything.) But 7 Million? Trade that player. Your setting a dangerous precedent thats just going to escalate. Imagine the Leafs situation wherein 4 players make half of your salary cap. (Tavares,Mathews,Nylander, and probably Marner for 8-10 million.) If we had just last year gone deep into the playoffs and Boeser was a beast id be all about paying this kid 7million+ But he has proven nothing! We still dont fully know what we have until we make the playoffs. Boeser's demands are going to land him on another team 7 million is crazy talk. The problem is the precedent has already been set, only by other GMs. Some players demand and rightly deserve potential pay. It's a risk, but sometimes it's warranted, and I'm someone who thinks Brock deserves it. It'll get done and for something pretty reasonable, tho, I think. 8 minutes ago, The Great Canucks said: Our media is trying to stir up drama again, much like they did with Edler. The cap being an issue is a load of crap. It was clear for the last few months that Boeser was looking at a bridge deal, kind of like every other RFA. And some fans are buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, Pickly said: IMO worst case scenario is Boeser misses part of or all of camp. I doubt Jimbo and Co. want this to drag into the season and cause a distraction amongst the team especially with how high expectations are this season considering the moves made this off season. If I were a betting man, I think the sides come to a Timo Meier type deal around 7 mill per. Allot of it is also up to Boeser . If Jim cave's and gives them what they want , he gets criticized for too much $$$, and if he doesnt sign him early , it's his fault brock is not in camp. Allot of this falls on Boeser . Dont buy the story they tell that it's his agent that handles all this . Brock decides what direction he wants to go every step of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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