DIBdaQUIB Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, JV77 said: I agree. And the Hawks too. No matter how good they already are, they are always looking to improve and do so. Hawks are looking for a d -man and top 6 forward. They are constantly looking to upgrade positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Provost said: I don't know how this can be considered anything but a win for LA. They get two decent players for the bottom of their lineup at cheap cap hits and give effectively nothing in return. The question is why did Philly do this? If Vinny was going to retire at the end of the season regardless then there was no real need to dump him. Retaining that much salary means they aren't really opening up room to take on someone else's bad contract for the rest of the season either. Do you see Philly making the playoffs? The point would be asset management - I'd think the more obvious question would be why Philly would keep Lecavalier when they can recover value (ie a 3rd) in a deal for him. The additional question is why they'd keep Schenn and his contract when they can clear out a pylon and make space for their younger, more talented blueliners. They are a franchise that has Gostisbehere, Hagg, Sanheim, Provorov, Morin in their pipeline. They've been trying to dump Schenn for some time so this really comes as no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Schenn's brought in to replace the departed Robyn Regher. It may very well work out for L.A. Vinny was a throw in, as Philly probably asked L.A "you guys have to take Vinny in order for this trade to be completed" type of thing. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: This is why the Kings win. They're not afraid to make big moves to improve their team. A deep team just got even deeper. That's it. It's a 'big' move to shore up something they thought they were lacking. Whether they were or weren't, Lecavalier is 6'3" and Schenn is 6'2" - They didn't get smaller. The slower game the kings play won't hurt their style either. He's not afraid to make the move... and Vinny might just be very well motivated for his true last chance - if he can go out with another cup, what better way to go out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Screw off LA. Just keep on getting deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Lecavalier's been the most overpaid player in NHL history. He'll be a 3rd line player in LA and retire at end of season as his salary drops to 3 mill next year. Schenn is UFA and this gives him a chance to raise his value. LA gearing up to make another Cup run. Caps vs Kings in the SCF. Go Caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, theminister said: Man, that's a lot of cap for LA to eat. They must have something else up. That was my first thought, that they didn't even have cap for that. But, Philly retaining 50% on both contracts sure helps out with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Didn't think it was possible for the Kings to get any tougher...now 6'2 229 Schenn is added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: This is why the Kings win. They're not afraid to make big moves to improve their team. A deep team just got even deeper. Very true. Hopefully Benning is taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 58 minutes ago, Provost said: I don't know how this can be considered anything but a win for LA. They get two decent players for the bottom of their lineup at cheap cap hits and give effectively nothing in return. The question is why did Philly do this? If Vinny was going to retire at the end of the season regardless then there was no real need to dump him. Retaining that much salary means they aren't really opening up room to take on someone else's bad contract for the rest of the season either. Makes sense to me from Philly's perspective: Lecavalier retiring and Schenn and UFA could both walk for nothing at the end of the season, so instead they got a prospect and a 3rd for them and sped up the process of them leaving. They won't have to worry about Vinny's retained salary after this year when he retires since it's not a 35+ contract. But as much as we knew the Flyers we getting terrible offers in trying to move these two, this confirms how far they had to go to get this much. Even more of a surprise they could move them both in one deal, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 They might dump Hoff as he's been a healthy scratch, in which case I hope we grab him. I realize people will disagree with this, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, aliboy said: They might dump Hoff as he's been a healthy scratch, in which case I hope we grab him. I realize people will disagree with this, I don't care. Hoff would be welcome, if only just to get Weber out of the line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So Weber, Vey, and a 3rd wouldn't have got us Schenn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 hour ago, oldnews said: The speed doesn't matter part, lol. I suppose when they've lost to the Hawks it was the Hawks superior grit that decided it, right. Another DeNiro oversimplification. They also beat the Hawks! How the heck are you trying to justify Kings being slow and teams will skate circles around them when the have 2 cups in the last 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Assuming this highers the percentage of Lucic hitting FA/coming to Vancouver. This moves indicates LA is all in and want to go on a Cup drive before they get cap strapped with the Kopitar extension in the offseason, kinda like the Hawks are now but still making it work (lucky bastards...Panarin on a ELC ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 hour ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Schenn's brought in to replace the departed Robyn Regher. It may very well work out for L.A. Vinny was a throw in, as Philly probably asked L.A "you guys have to take Vinny in order for this trade to be completed" type of thing. well done. Vinny wasn't being played in Philly, writing was on the wall, so he agreed to retire at end of year before LA made the deal. No way LA keeps Vinny on as bottom 6 forward at 4.5 mill cap hit for 2 more years. His salary drops to 3 mill next year. He's retiring at end of this year. Easily the most overpaid guy in NHL history. HE was making 10 mill per year in Tampa, got bought out and signed a 22 mill deal with Philly. He gives LA depth at C, he can slot in at 3C and make a run for the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: So Weber, Vey, and a 3rd wouldn't have got us Schenn? What do you need Schenn for though, he's UFA at end of year so you're just throwing those assets away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Weal was essentially another Vey, which I'd think is about the same value as Lecavalier if not a bit more. This is essentially a 3rd round pick + tiny bit of value for Schenn. Benning should have made that trade in a heart-beat. We need a physical right handed defenceman for the time being, Schenn would have been worth a 3rd. I'd rather Schenn now than a flyer on Brisebois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 26 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Weal was essentially another Vey, which I'd think is about the same value as Lecavalier if not a bit more. This is essentially a 3rd round pick + tiny bit of value for Schenn. Benning should have made that trade in a heart-beat. We need a physical right handed defenceman for the time being, Schenn would have been worth a 3rd. I'd rather Schenn now than a flyer on Brisebois You must be from the future lol. Just a hunch but you don't really know anything about the player, do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Lecavalier and Schenn both suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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