Coronavirus outbreak

[aGENT]

7 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Should've rolled over them in the 40s when they were weak compared to today. 

Yeah.... Except that would likely have lead to the death of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent citizens...

 

Not sure that's something we should be claiming we'd have 'preferred'.

 

Hopefully simple democracy wins out over time and with a much lower body count.

Edited March 19, 2020 by aGENT

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

[milk and honey]

Saw a tweet saying pollution is down, Venice water is clean and there are dolphins. Wildfires are down in Australia to. 

 

This whole thing might be a blessing in surprise if true. Still incredibly sad and shocking what happened nevertheless

[Chris12345]

2 minutes ago, milk and honey said:

Saw a tweet saying pollution is down, Venice water is clean and there are dolphins. Wildfires are down in Australia to. 

 

This whole thing might be a blessing in surprise if true. Still incredibly sad and shocking what happened nevertheless

9 months later the hospitals are overwhelmed due to child birth.

[Smashian Kassian]

18 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

 

An apology and promise to do better in the future... yeah that will make up for 1) his death, 2) his reputation destroyed in the last few days of his life, and 3) his family's mourning.

 

 

 

Aswell as gross negligence leading to this pandemic. Makes up for nothing. 

[nuckin_futz]

1 minute ago, milk and honey said:

Saw a tweet saying pollution is down, Venice water is clean and there are dolphins. Wildfires are down in Australia to. 

 

This whole thing might be a blessing in surprise if true. Still incredibly sad and shocking what happened nevertheless

Kind of makes you wonder if this virus isn't a revolt by Mother Nature for the way we have abused her. The trees will be fine, the oceans will be fine, the mountains will be fine. All the animals will be fine. Mankind will take a beating.

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Kind of makes you wonder if this virus isn't a revolt by Mother Nature for the way we have abused her. The trees will be fine, the oceans will be fine, the mountains will be fine. All the animals will be fine. Mankind will take a beating.

the universe is indifferent to us. 

[JM_]

Some interesting research out of OZ: https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2020/03/researchers-set-begin-clinical-trials-coronavirus-cure

 

it appears that so far in test tubes, a combination of existing malaria and HIV drugs are effective in killing covid19, and the Aussies are starting human trials soon.

 

I've read that Canadian uni's are on similar paths but this is the first report I've seen of specific drugs having this kind of potential.

[Boudrias]

8 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said:

I'm with ya, I don't trust China either. Maybe an analysis from Gates might change your mind about time-frame:

 

 

 

I have a lot of respect for Bill Gates. Truly wished that he had challenged the nutbar leadership of the Demos. He would be  an excellent POTUS. I simply do not believe the. MSM anymore. Because I don’t I am inclined to give Trump more leeway. 

[nuckin_futz]

Anti-Malaria Drug Shows Promising Results In Treating COVID-19

While several drugs are currently being tested to treat COVID-19, an inexpensive anti-malaria drug that's been around for over 70 years has been shown to halt coronavirus in patients who have mild to moderate symptoms.

 

 

The drug, chloroquine, was first approved in the US in 1949, and has been widely used as a low-cost method to treat a variety of diseases, including malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. In several studies and through anecdotal evidence, chloroquine appears to significantly limit the replication of COVID-19, particularly when combined with antibiotic azithromycin (Z-Pak).

 

In a study published Wednesday by French physician-researchers, a total of 36 patients (20 who were treated with chloroqine and 16 controls who were not) revealed that 50% of the treated group turned from positive to negative on the third day - which grew to 70% by the sixth day.

 

 

Six test patients were treated with both chloroquine and Z-pak, and all six tested negative for coronavirus on day six.

"Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin," the study concludes.

 

Both the Dutch CDC and the Italian Society of Infectious and Tropical disease have recommended the use of cloroquine for coronavirus patients, along with doctors from China, South Korea and Belgium - which have added the drug to their treatment guidelines. Meanwhile there are over two dozen clinical trials are currently underway to study the efficacy of the drug.

 

Australian researchers at the University of Queensland say that a combination of chloroquine and Kaletra led to the recovery of some of the first coronavirus patients in the country.

 

"If clinical data confirm the biological results, the novel coronavirus-associated disease will have become one of the simplest and cheapest to treat and prevent among infectious respiratory diseases," wrote a group of French researchers on February 15 in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (via Business Insider).

One of the three authors of that article was Didier Raoult, a prominent infectious-disease expert who's running a clinical trial in France to test a version of the drug called hydroxychloroquine on a few dozen patients with COVID-19. It's one of many clinical studies going on around the world testing chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine.

Early reports of Raoult's trial were positive, with Raoult saying chloroquine appeared to shorten the time that people with COVID-19 are infectious. -Business Insider

That said, chloroquine is not without side-effects, including headaches, dizziness and stomach problems up to and including diarrhea. All of which would be preferable to dying of coronavirus.

 

Meanwhile, US physicians aren't waiting for the trial results - as prescriptions for choloroquine have surged from 531 weekly prescriptions to 1,290, according to recent tracking data from IQVIA, cited by Raymond James (via BI).

 

The drug has become so popular that the UK has added both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to a list of drugs which cannot be exported for fear that there will be a shortage in the country.

 

Early reports of success should be 'taken seriously' according to Italian scientist Andrea Savarino, who has worked at the Italian National Institute of Health since 2006.

During the 2003 outbreak of SARS — also a coronavirus — Savarino showed in laboratory research that chloroquine may be a useful weapon against it. But by the time his research was published in The Lancet in November 2003, the outbreak had dissipated and there were no human cases available to test.

"There has been a number of press releases, unfortunately not yet papers, but even the local experiments are things that should be taken seriously," Savarino told Business Insider. "Chloroquine plus the HIV inhibitors has produced interesting results, at least curative results, both in China and Australia." -Business Insider

Another drug which has shown significant promise for COVID-19 is Avigan, which has shown to shorten COVID-19 infections from 11 days to 4, as well as drop fever in patients from 4.2 days to 2.5 days after treatment is started.

[RUPERTKBD]

14 minutes ago, milk and honey said:

Saw a tweet saying pollution is down, Venice water is clean and there are dolphins. Wildfires are down in Australia to. 

 

This whole thing might be a blessing in surprise if true. Still incredibly sad and shocking what happened nevertheless

+1 for the sentiment and the Rickyism....

[Jester13]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Mrs Alf does the same; she cooks a lot of meals in her crock pot.  Trouble is I have to look at the damned thing. 

 

The Leafs are just like food: tastes great on day one, but with each passing day it breaks down until it has completely spoiled. 

[bishopshodan]

10 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the universe is indifferent to us. 

Source?

[JM_]

4 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Anti-Malaria Drug Shows Promising Results In Treating COVID-19

While several drugs are currently being tested to treat COVID-19, an inexpensive anti-malaria drug that's been around for over 70 years has been shown to halt coronavirus in patients who have mild to moderate symptoms.

 

 

pretty encouraging stuff here - having a pre-approved set of drugs saves years of testing. 

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Source?

 

[milk and honey]

7 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

+1 for the sentiment and the Rickyism....

I don't watch TPB tbh but I do get the reference now lol

[Alflives]

9 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Anti-Malaria Drug Shows Promising Results In Treating COVID-19

While several drugs are currently being tested to treat COVID-19, an inexpensive anti-malaria drug that's been around for over 70 years has been shown to halt coronavirus in patients who have mild to moderate symptoms.

 

 

The drug, chloroquine, was first approved in the US in 1949, and has been widely used as a low-cost method to treat a variety of diseases, including malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. In several studies and through anecdotal evidence, chloroquine appears to significantly limit the replication of COVID-19, particularly when combined with antibiotic azithromycin (Z-Pak).

 

In a study published Wednesday by French physician-researchers, a total of 36 patients (20 who were treated with chloroqine and 16 controls who were not) revealed that 50% of the treated group turned from positive to negative on the third day - which grew to 70% by the sixth day.

 

 

Six test patients were treated with both chloroquine and Z-pak, and all six tested negative for coronavirus on day six.

"Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin," the study concludes.

 

Both the Dutch CDC and the Italian Society of Infectious and Tropical disease have recommended the use of cloroquine for coronavirus patients, along with doctors from China, South Korea and Belgium - which have added the drug to their treatment guidelines. Meanwhile there are over two dozen clinical trials are currently underway to study the efficacy of the drug.

 

Australian researchers at the University of Queensland say that a combination of chloroquine and Kaletra led to the recovery of some of the first coronavirus patients in the country.

 

"If clinical data confirm the biological results, the novel coronavirus-associated disease will have become one of the simplest and cheapest to treat and prevent among infectious respiratory diseases," wrote a group of French researchers on February 15 in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (via Business Insider).

One of the three authors of that article was Didier Raoult, a prominent infectious-disease expert who's running a clinical trial in France to test a version of the drug called hydroxychloroquine on a few dozen patients with COVID-19. It's one of many clinical studies going on around the world testing chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine.

Early reports of Raoult's trial were positive, with Raoult saying chloroquine appeared to shorten the time that people with COVID-19 are infectious. -Business Insider

That said, chloroquine is not without side-effects, including headaches, dizziness and stomach problems up to and including diarrhea. All of which would be preferable to dying of coronavirus.

 

Meanwhile, US physicians aren't waiting for the trial results - as prescriptions for choloroquine have surged from 531 weekly prescriptions to 1,290, according to recent tracking data from IQVIA, cited by Raymond James (via BI).

 

The drug has become so popular that the UK has added both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to a list of drugs which cannot be exported for fear that there will be a shortage in the country.

 

Early reports of success should be 'taken seriously' according to Italian scientist Andrea Savarino, who has worked at the Italian National Institute of Health since 2006.

During the 2003 outbreak of SARS — also a coronavirus — Savarino showed in laboratory research that chloroquine may be a useful weapon against it. But by the time his research was published in The Lancet in November 2003, the outbreak had dissipated and there were no human cases available to test.

"There has been a number of press releases, unfortunately not yet papers, but even the local experiments are things that should be taken seriously," Savarino told Business Insider. "Chloroquine plus the HIV inhibitors has produced interesting results, at least curative results, both in China and Australia." -Business Insider

Another drug which has shown significant promise for COVID-19 is Avigan, which has shown to shorten COVID-19 infections from 11 days to 4, as well as drop fever in patients from 4.2 days to 2.5 days after treatment is started.

Do we make these drugs in Canada?  If we don’t, we should get started.  Why not have these drugs available in our care homes, and if a resident shows a fever start them on the medication?  

[Chicken.]

Wow crazy how misinformed the WHO was back in January..  just another reminder not to trust the Chinese authorities 

 

 

[AppleJack]

11 hours ago, King Heffy said:

They are smart animals and know when we're sick.  No need to socially distance yourself from them and they won't let you anyway!

They are so very smart. We have three cats and one of them is always hovering around me in way or another. That is until TS comes home then they leave me and jump onto him. 

 

11 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

So frustrating. The confirmed case numbers is a sham because of this.

Canada is going to wait till its too late before taking appropriate measures.

Take Care

It is so beyond frustrating especially since I have underlying health problems. The doctor I saw said he thinks I probably have a mild case because I don't have a fever and that it is bothering my asthma. Even if I am not at risk for serious complications I am at risk of having a serious asthma attack where 911 and emerg may have to be involved. 811 told me I wouldn't even have to tell 911 ( if I needed them) that I have symptoms cause since I have no travel history I don't qualify for catching covid. 

 

11 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

Please keep us updated.  Sending love and a hug from a responsible distance.

Thank you.

I am feeling slightly better today. Headache is better, cough and chest are about the same. No fever 

 

[Pickly]

18 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I have a lot of respect for Bill Gates. Truly wished that he had challenged the nutbar leadership of the Demos. He would be  an excellent POTUS. I simply do not believe the. MSM anymore. Because I don’t I am inclined to give Trump more leeway. 

Bill is one of the good ones that’s for sure.