khay Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Hopefully Woo is ready to push for top 6 role to platoon with Schenn? OEL-Myers Hughes-Poolman Juolevi-Schenn/Woo Ugh. This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Agreed. I think he and the Canucks should move into contract termination. However, it's possible that the Canucks want to do him a favour and give him to a team that needs his services, in exchange for someone we could use. I found this earlier, but you might have missed this post. I don't think we're going to be able to get anything we can use at this point. He's a good player, but he's making a pretty penny, and if he doesn't want to play in Canada and isn't going to be able to play certain teams, that pretty much nukes any trade value he has. We'll be extremely lucky to get out of the contract without retention, let alone netting any sort of return imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: If Schenn is a regular in our top 4 we’re gonna have a bad time. I know everyone loved him there to stick up for Hughes but I don’t think he has the foot speed or the shutdown ability that Hughes needs in a partner. I see our top 4 being: OEL Myers Hughes Poolman And then a bottom pair of: Juolevi Demers or Rathbone Schenn Without Hamonic the D goes from thin to emaciated. I will save my judgment until the facts come out but the whole thing is bizarre and disappointing. Only a few things in my mind will justify this run around and general shafting of the team and fans 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Given that Hamonic signed the 2 years, demonstrating that he had a commitment to the team, but now says that he wants to play for the States, I think we can see what happened. Seems like Hamonic flip-flopped about what he wanted. Now he wants to sit out without mutually ending the contract. I think he wants the commitment, but doesn't want to commit. Sorry, I don't like how Hamonic handled this situation. I wanted to believe he did this for his family, but his lack of vaccine (supposedly) and his desire to play elsewhere (also allegedly the case) says otherwise. I'm ready to move on from him. agreed, this is not on Benning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Well, Benning said Hamonic would be here, so there is hope he decides to play before Friday. Or maybe he'll opt out, retire. It would free up $3M, maybe allow Benning to get those two contracts done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, bbllpp said: Without Hamonic the D goes from thin to emaciated. I will save my judgment until the facts come out but the whole thing is bizarre and disappointing. Only a few things in my mind will justify this run around and general shafting of the team and fans well it is 1 NHL body less but players like Hunt and Schenn can play in the league and Hunt has very good puck skills while Schenn provides some solid physical play. Nothing wrong with getting it done by committee, may even free up ice to rotate in more youth. And there is always the opportunity that someone becomes available during Waivers or by a team looking to fir under roster or cap compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Well, Benning said Hamonic would be here, so there is hope he decides to play before Friday. Or maybe he'll opt out, retire. It would free up $3M, maybe allow Benning to get those two contracts done. Oh I just hate that, the two unsigned kids don't need more of the team's cap. I still hold out hope for creative and not 8m+ per deals to be signed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 And to think Calgary had to give a 1st rounder and 2 second rounders when he requested a trade from the Islanders to a Western Canadian team. We would be incredibly fortunate to get anything for him. I think the Canucks will have to put him on waivers and terminate his contract . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, khay said: Hopefully Woo is ready to push for top 6 role to platoon with Schenn? OEL-Myers Hughes-Poolman Juolevi-Schenn/Woo Ugh. This sucks. don't you think you're over reacting a little bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: don't you think you're over reacting a little bit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, khay said: Hopefully Woo is ready to push for top 6 role to platoon with Schenn? OEL-Myers Hughes-Poolman Juolevi-Schenn/Woo Ugh. This sucks. If Woo is ready, he's partnering Rathbone. These 2 were magic in Utica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 We are going to need 8 maybe 10 d men to get through the season. All of these guys listed are going to need to contribute. The hope for every nhl team is your top guys stay in the lineup and play lots of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, kloubek said: I agree. I would caution everyone not to assume anything. We don't know whether Benning and he discussed details regarding Covid or not. We don't know the reasons behind him not being vaxxed, assuming he is not. We don't know if it was assumed Covid would be all but gone by now - though I think any intelligent person could have at least assumed the possibility. This certainly does put us in a bind, but before we rag on Hamonic too much its only fair to get the facts. There's an article that talks about Hamonic being with Vancouver. It's not about the erroneous belief that Covid ending in a short period; this is about Hamonic signing for two years, committing the Canucks for this time. Afterwards, he decides the vaccine isn't for him (it is mentioned in another Rob Johnson article or tweet, I believe, that he is unvaxxed) Then again, maybe the Canucks tried to gamble that he'll change his mind, and even gave him the security of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, khay said: Hopefully Woo is ready to push for top 6 role to platoon with Schenn? OEL-Myers Hughes-Poolman Juolevi-Schenn/Woo Ugh. This sucks. You think Juolevi makes it over Rathbone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, EmilyM said: You think Juolevi makes it over Rathbone? He's better in his own zone. Without Hamonic, we can't risk a defensive liability. Have him and Woo play big minutes and be ready to be called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategal Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I haven't seen anything official that states his reasons for not being at camp are due to NHL requirements for vaccinations so not willing to speculate. I'm sure whatever his reasons are it's a difficult decision to make. I wish him and his family well, we should know by Friday if he is going to elect to opt out of the 2021-22 season. Not sure what deadline he has in the event he is in fact pondering retirement? I would think the Canucks could establish a deadline that would allow contract termination in the event he fails to report by the deadline? Most business' won't tolerate an extended absence without approval by any employee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Then again, maybe the Canucks tried to gamble that he'll change his mind, and even gave him the security of the contract. ..then that'd be on Benning. To be fair, I haven't read every possible post I could find. Yet, the validity of such are not infallible, as we've seen time and time again. I'm sure we'll get conformation in due time. But fans putting either side down right now is a bit premature imo. I will say though, if he isn't going to play, it makes for an interesting dilemma for Benning for multiple reasons. Such a shame; I was fairly happy we re-signed him (even if he wasn't going to be the shutdown guy we really needed but couldn't afford) but this, along with the lack of signing of our two best players isn't exactly starting the season off on an ideal note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, EmilyM said: You think Juolevi makes it over Rathbone? Yes. Not because OJ is better but because Rathbone is waiver exempt and that he can benefit from playing more minutes in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, JM_ said: don't you think you're over reacting a little bit? Yes, for sure. But I'm just doing my job as a fan? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 20 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Crazy to think that if Hughes' contract doesn't get sorted soon, our opening night D lineup might be this: OEL - Poolman Rathbone - Myers Juolevi - Schenn Not horrible by any means but 1 injury away from a disasterclass. Uncle Jim has been unable to craft a semi-reliable D-fence for almost a decade now. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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