King Heffy Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, lmm said: remember the Daniel Keith strikes me as a player, who when his skills erode, becomes more Raffiesque he probably won't help Edmonton win as much as he will injure all your favorite Canucks And then MacEwen can ensure he never walks again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 No salary retention? Man, Chicago took that and ran On the upside, we can all hate Keith more than we already did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, MikeBossy said: Imagine CDC if Benning did this - giving up a good young prospect for a 37 yr old D man - YIKES Good young prospect? The guy is a 4th round pick and hasn’t proved much of anything since he was drafted. Jones is 24 years old, not 20! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Good young prospect? The guy is a 4th round pick and hasn’t proved much of anything since he was drafted. Jones is 24 years old, not 20! It’s be like giving up Stecher and a 3rd for him. Still an overpayment no matter how you slice it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Coconuts said: No salary retention? Man, Chicago took that and ran On the upside, we can all hate Keith more than we already did I’m just happy we get to play him more. Better keep your head up old man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: I’m just happy we get to play him more. Better keep your head up old man! Will never forget this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, King Heffy said: And then MacEwen can ensure he never walks again. Just like Bieksa, Lappierre, Rome, Alberts, Volpatti and Weise did back in the day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I, for one, think this is a genius move by the Oilers. As we've seen under Benning, there's no better use of the cap than overpaying bad and/or past their best-before date players in the name of veteran leadership and experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, lmm said: Just like Bieksa, Lappierre, Rome, Alberts, Volpatti and Weise did back in the day? One of them absolutely should have Bertuzzi'd him. Giving that piece of garbage what he deserves would be a great way to show that the culture has changed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, King Heffy said: And then MacEwen can ensure he never walks again. you must be watching a different team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: One of them absolutely should have Bertuzzi'd him. Giving that piece of garbage what he deserves would be a great way to show that the culture has changed here. coulda shouldsa woouldsaa Didn't, won't , don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I wouldn't worry too much there. I think Jim is set on adding larger more aggressive stay at home defensemen. Barrie should be re-signed by Edmonton right away to solidify that amazing d corps! I hope your right PB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vinny in Vancouver Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just visited the Oilers reddit, and their fans are aghast at no salary retained. Perhaps we can all pool some money and start an airplane banner advertising business over there. J/k. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, rekker said: I hope your right PB. I think Barrie stated that he wanted to remain an Oiler, so Holland should do the Christian thing and give Barrie a meaty contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: I think Barrie stated that he wanted to remain an Oiler, so Holland should do the Christian thing and give Barrie a meaty contract. Once again, I hope your right PB, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, rekker said: Once again, I hope your right PB, lol. I shall be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, RWJC said: No salary retained by CHI!!! Keith WAS effective in the past. Look at his numbers the past few seasons and you'll see he actually pulls his D partners down with him in his decline. He's nowhere near worth that cap value, imho. Ask yourself this, if you were forced by ownership to give 5.5 to Keith or a potential UFA like Hamonic (not saying he's worth 5.5 either) who you invest into? This deal is crazy, and that doesn't even include the potential value of the 3rd round pick, or Jones to a lesser extent. This deal bears no real fruit for EDM or their fans. It only weakens their position for 2 seasons until the contact ends. Fair enough. I agree that if you look at it as using Klefbom's cap space to invest in a D other than Keith, then yes, this is an expensive deal for the Oilers to make both in terms of acquisition cost and cap hit. I wonder if a big part of this is a perception of lack of leadership? Not saying I would argue that Keith is the answer to that issue, but that might indicate why EDM wanted to add Keith rather than invest Klefbom's money in a UFA. "Intangibles" like leadership are basically impossible to really pin down but that teams pay for and GMs get into trouble with. If Keith helps stabilize their D core next year, then maybe the deal looks better than it does now. Do I hope that happens? Not at all, but I suspect that's where this deal is coming from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Why am I not surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: I, for one, think this is a genius move by the Oilers. As we've seen under Benning, there's no better use of the cap than overpaying bad and/or past their best-before date players in the name of veteran leadership and experience. Lol... a guy who can't resisting mentioning Benning's name, even if the deal had nothing to do with him. Edited July 12, 2021 by Dazzle 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESP77 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Edmonton finally got their top four defenseman....... Yes, if it was 10 years ago lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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