The Official Travis Green Thread to end all Travis Green Threads

[Maddogy]

You have to be objective, the defence pairs for the most part played well enough to win. Somehow the D men are not tuning out the coach. Our goalies are good. Defence is decent. Bottom 6 forwards are working their butts off. It’s some of the top 6 forwards that are $&!#ting their pants.

[Rush17]

I'm not sure. It is very disappointing.

 

I said i wanted to give this team 15 games before casting judgement but its getting harder each game. If we put up a similar or worse effort Saturday.. thats gonna suck.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Here's the bad news:

 

Green has just been signed to a two year extension.

 

So the earliest I think he gets fired is end of season.

 

And even if he gets fired mid-season, a new coach would not have time to teach a new system.

 

Green should have been gone in the summer to give a new coach time to put his ideas into practice.

[Kurgom]

3 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

And even if he gets fired mid-season, a new coach would not have time to teach a new system.

Regardless, middle season coaching changes can turn a sub-par team into a solid contender and it's been shown to work in the past in these kind of situations. The players wanting to play for you is a big thing, and firing a bad coach can be like taking off shackles for some players. If they waste the whole season I'm going to be upset.

Edited October 29, 2021 by Kurgom

[Gnarcore]

1 minute ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

Here's the bad news:

 

Green has just been signed to a two year extension.

 

So the earliest I think he gets fired is end of season.

 

And even if he gets fired mid-season, a new coach would not have time to teach a new system.

 

Green should have been gone in the summer to give a new coach time to put his ideas into practice.

If we're out of playoffs by more than 2 wins at US Thanksgiving I wouldn't be shocked to see him gone. Francisco wants playoffs and ticket sales after the covid years. Both are at jeopardy right now if this play continues. 

[Provost]

If we are still below .500 by the end of November, Benning and Green should lose their jobs.

 

They have gotten more rope than virtually anyone else in the league and aside from a short blip in the bubble, the team has been pretty terrible for years.

 

This is pretty much the team we have going forward for a long time due to contract terms and salaries, so there aren’t a lot of levers to push for different results.

[Dazzle]

I don't get why they extended Green to begin with. It was the perfect opportunity to let an experienced coach handle an up and coming team.

 

I was not at all impressed with how Green handled preseason, and nothing he can say will convince me that his approaches were well thought out. Reading about how he's handled players like Bailey, Macewen, and Podkolzin demonstrates what we've seen for YEARS. Coach Green's doghouse is one that you do not get out of.

[Dazzle]

2 minutes ago, Provost said:

If we are still below .500 by the end of November, Benning and Green should lose their jobs.

 

They have gotten more rope than virtually anyone else in the league and aside from a short blip in the bubble, the team has been pretty terrible for years.

 

This is pretty much the team we have going forward for a long time due to contract terms and salaries, so there aren’t a lot of levers to push for different results.

I believe Benning did all he could to improve this team. The BIGGEST mistake was to extend Green. I just don't understand WHY they had to extend him. Management as a whole is crap.

Edited October 29, 2021 by Dazzle

[cuporbust]

[Kurgom]

2 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

I believe Benning did all he could to improve this team. The BIGGEST mistake was to extend Green. I just don't understand WHY they had to extend him. Management as a whole is crap.

I agree Benning did well as far as player movements go but Green still being here is on him too.

[Elias Pettersson]

I can confirm I am playing to get him fired.

 

You guys think I'm actually that bad and forgot how to play hockey?  

[NHL'er]

5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I can confirm I am playing to get him fired.

 

You guys think I'm actually that bad and forgot how to play hockey?  

Yes? 

[eeeeergh]

23 minutes ago, Maddogy said:

You have to be objective, the defence pairs for the most part played well enough to win. Somehow the D men are not tuning out the coach. Our goalies are good. Defence is decent. Bottom 6 forwards are working their butts off. It’s some of the top 6 forwards that are $&!#ting their pants.

In fairness, more than half the D corps is new -> OEL, Poolman, Burroughs, Schenn.. 

Bottom 6 are doing good work with the dump and chase system - they're fast and physical enough to retrieve pucks and we don't expect them to set up that many scoring chances, so anything that sets up is a pleasant surprise. Plus they dont play as many minutes.

Dump and chase gives u a very low chance of setting up a great scoring chance.

Its extremely annoying that Green is forcing our top 6 into that mold and I completely understand why they're tuning him out. 

[Patel Bure]

1 hour ago, D-Money said:

Can’t generate offence without neutering the defence. And now can’t fix the defence without neutering the offence.

 

Getting sick of this nonsense. Coaching is huge. Look at how quickly the Islanders turned from laughingstock to contender, despite losing their most talented player. Look at how great the Flames are doing under Sutter. Just pull the plug already…

And I hate to say this in the current climate, but Quennville with Florida.

[Hairy Kneel]

55 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

Anybody who wants an answer to the OP's question should have been watching the Philly game closely.

 

At a certain point in the 3rd, you could see Brock Boeser on the bench, who is the most easy going guy in the world and a decent person, muttering to himself after Green said something stupid to him.

 

So if you think that was a nothing... ok.

I would like to go back and see that. 

[Hairy Kneel]

48 minutes ago, Kurgom said:

Boeser was our best player in the last half of the third period, so maybe it worked. If we scored on a single PP we probably win or lose in a shootout. The PP has been atrocious for years now and some blame for it goes to green for sure.

What do you think of the bounce pass pp goal Philly did? That was pretty amazing for a visiting team eh

[*Buzzsaw*]

As an example of how Green squeezes the creativity out of his players... look at his benching of Garland tonight.

 

Garland has been the life and spark of the team in these first games of the season... but obviously Green decided Garland made some unforgiveable error so he benched him.  (probably being on the ice when a goal was scored)

 

Instead of giving Garland the opportunity to make up for his mistake, he staples him to the bench.

 

So Garland next game will be looking over his shoulder and second guessing himself.

 

Same thing happened with Hooglander after his first year... when he was a spark for the team... now he is no where near that player... Green crushed his creativity.

[Kurgom]

1 minute ago, Hairy Kneel said:

What do you think of the bounce pass pp goal Philly did? That was pretty amazing for a visiting team eh

It's a sad state of affairs when an Eastern conference team has a better understanding of our arena than our multi year coaching staff.

[Specz]

We're just so...predictable. Like every team knows how to counter our repetitive plays now. We have like 2-3 options we always revert to on the powerplay, we dump and chase 80% of the time we enter the opposing zone, we mash up the lines when players are desperately trying to find chemistry, we overly rely on players who are visibly struggling and bench those who aren't. We're just so...predictable to play against it's like Green keeps going back to the same stale strategies every time, hoping the result will be different.

[wallstreetamigo]

1 hour ago, AV. said:

Green to Calgary?

Would be quite on-brand for them to steal another one of our organization's assets.

You sir, are using the term “asset” far too loosely here.