wai_lai416 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Thanks Mr insider Np keep living in your fantasy world where this team magically is a stanley cup contender and everyone is dying to sign here for team friendly contracts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: So maybe the way to go about this trade is accepting that the Rags won't trade Schneider. Trade for Kaako + Cuylle or Othmann + Chytil and then package one of them in a trade to acquire another great young RD. Three team trade in the offing maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: So maybe the way to go about this trade is accepting that the Rags won't trade Schneider. Trade for Kaako + Cuylle or Othmann + Chytil and then package one of them in a trade to acquire another great young RD. Got to give to get. If they won't include Schneider, there are other teams that will be interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: See what you're saying, I don't think Lundkvist fits our teams need either, but RD is the hardest position in the league to find outside of maybe a C. Might have a better chance doing a hockey trade of RD prospect for RD prospect that fits the teams need better. I'm sure lots of teams could use a blue chip (or at least close to blue chip) RD puck moving prospect. And then who knows, maybe he develops into a way that he does fit the team and we get what we need. Just feels like a D prospect must be one of thing returns for Miller to me. OK then... Kaako (from the Miller trade) + Shenn for Vilardi(C-r) + Helge Grans (RD) He'll (Grans)walk the offensive blue line with the puck on his stick with relative ease; and he can mitigate risk while maintaining an aggressive, space-consuming posture when defending the defensive blue line. He skates well, has a long reach, an active stick, and good habits with his footwork. -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 If the Miller discussions fall through, I am curious if NY would trade Pearson for Kravtsov directly? The long road of McCann for Kravtsov....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: If the Miller discussions fall through, I am curious if NY would trade Pearson for Kravtsov directly? The long road of McCann for Kravtsov....... I'm good with that as long as there's no salary retention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: Not feeling enthusiastic about Lundkvist; he's too small for a defence that includes Rathbone and Hughes. I think the gm, armed with a really good FW prospect + whatever, can find a young RD with the appropriate physic to be Quinn's d partner. A) Rathbone isn’t small b) I suppose you don’t like Colorado’s defence then. Quick puck moving mobile defence man are what teams are building towards c) Lundkvist had the best U20 defenceman stats in the SHL ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: If the Miller discussions fall through, I am curious if NY would trade Pearson for Kravtsov directly? The long road of McCann for Kravtsov....... What's Russian translation for "it is what it is". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: If the Miller discussions fall through, I am curious if NY would trade Pearson for Kravtsov directly? The long road of McCann for Kravtsov....... Depends. How does Matt Bartkowski’s mom feel about Kravstov?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A) Rathbone isn’t small b) I suppose you don’t like Colorado’s defence then. Quick puck moving mobile defence man are what teams are building towards c) Lundkvist had the best U20 defenceman stats in the SHL ever What's your definition of small? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 what if we did the lundkvist, kratsov and a 1st deal but with a condition if the rangers make it to to the stanley cup, we get a conditional second ?. i love to gamba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted February 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, rekker said: What's Russian translation for "it is what it is". это то, что это js 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: what if we did the lundkvist, kratsov and a 1st deal but with a condition if the rangers make it to to the stanley cup, we get a conditional second ?. i love to gamba A conditional Lundkvist... if they win the Cup, Lundkvist turns into Schneider. Yes... yes, we send Lundkvist back and get Schneider 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A) Rathbone isn’t small b) I suppose you don’t like Colorado’s defence then. Quick puck moving mobile defence man are what teams are building towards c) Lundkvist had the best U20 defenceman stats in the SHL ever a) Rathbone at 5'10 is small for a D. b) Avs have 2d under d under 6'. Considering one of them is Makar, that's not bad. c) I'm sure he is a good player, but he probably wouldn't be paired with Quinn (or Rathbone). Can't leave Quinn with Shenn, Hamonic or Poolman type players indefinitely. He needs a partner that can play both offensive and defensive game and be physically aggressive in the d-zone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, higgyfan said: a) Rathbone at 5'10 is small for a D. b) Avs have 2d under d under 6'. Considering one of them is Makar, that's not bad. c) I'm sure he is a good player, but he probably wouldn't be paired with Quinn (or Rathbone). Can't leave Quinn with Shenn, Hamonic or Poolman type players indefinitely. He needs a partner that can play both offensive and defensive game and be physically aggressive in the d-zone. Isn't he like 5'9 actually, and 190lbs? That's pretty damn small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, N4ZZY said: where do you hear this? I was just responding to another poster about WAS potentially having interest as well. If there's more teams bidding, it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, HKSR said: A conditional Lundkvist... if they win the Cup, Lundkvist turns into Schneider. Yes... yes, we send Lundkvist back and get Schneider i thought about that, but having a player on the roster who knows about the considerations could cause some funny outcomes. imagine it thes semi finals game 7 and schiender gets a shift and "whoops" just misses a check. but i'm sure you're just kidding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 hours ago, aGENT said: To be fair, he replaced Edler with OEL. He did however fail to replace Juolevi when he crapped the bed, in his commitment and conditioning. IMO... Chytil, Schneider and conditional 1st/2nd. Or Chytil, Lundkvist, 1st and one or two of Othmann/Robertson/Barron. If we're retaining, or adding Motte etc, add accordingly. The problem with JB was that he was overly optimistic. He let Edler walk thinking OEL, Juolevi, and Rathbone will replace some of Edler's minutes. Well, OEL did replace Edler's 5-on-5 minutes but I don't think OEL replaces Edler's PK abilities. OEL is OK at PK whereas Edler is excellent at PK. And PK was the downfall of his and Green's Canucks. He let Toffoli walk thinking Virtanen will be a 20 goal scorer. Well, that failed pretty badly. I'll be fair and say that some did work out. Like Demko replacing Marky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A) Rathbone isn’t small b) I suppose you don’t like Colorado’s defence then. Quick puck moving mobile defence man are what teams are building towards c) Lundkvist had the best U20 defenceman stats in the SHL ever You’re right. Rathbone isn’t small. He is tiny. 5’9”- 5’-10” is very small, especially for a Dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 hours ago, aGENT said: To be fair, he replaced Edler with OEL. He did however fail to replace Juolevi when he crapped the bed, in his commitment and conditioning. IMO... Chytil, Schneider and conditional 1st/2nd. Or Chytil, Lundkvist, 1st and one or two of Othmann/Robertson/Barron. If we're retaining, or adding Motte etc, add accordingly. Any chance Pitt could jump in here, do they have anything of value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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