Goal:thecup Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Odd. said: I want to see how Miller performs. Whether we like it or not, he’s going to be here for the next 5-7 years and will be playing center. He’s going to have to take on Horvat duties and he’s going to need to elevate his play. Unless we somehow get Bedard, he will also most likely be the next captain. It will be interesting to see how Miller takes on the added responsibility once Horvat is officially traded. Guys are going to lean on him for support, he’s going to have to be that guy for them. I have my doubts though. He doesn’t have to be likeable but he sure as hell needs to be bearable. I have not given up on Miller being traded while we still can. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Odd. said: I want to see how Miller performs. Whether we like it or not, he’s going to be here for the next 5-7 years and will be playing center. He’s going to have to take on Horvat duties and he’s going to need to elevate his play. Unless we somehow get Bedard, he will also most likely be the next captain. It will be interesting to see how Miller takes on the added responsibility once Horvat is officially traded. Guys are going to lean on him for support, he’s going to have to be that guy for them. I have my doubts though. He doesn’t have to be likeable but he sure as hell needs to be bearable. Tocchet made it sound like he’s going to lessen Miller’s load. I think Miller’s gonna be regulated to strictly more offensive usage. I don’t think he’ll be taking much of Horvat’s workload. It’ll be interesting to see how they address that. Edited January 23 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Good stuff thanks. On the Boeser bit: I dislike this part of Brock and always have. When "Titties" was here, he said (on miked up) You and me Brock, we're the only Beauties on this team." I know, the Beauty League etc, but I don't like this type of stuff as time goes on; leave it behind, or for the summer; like then Toffoli went to Calgary and there was another soft check, etc. I don't like that shit on the ice. In fact, I don't really like any of it off the ice during the season and (dare I say it) the playoffs either. Brock is definitely under the gun. Agree wit you - and I am a Boeser supporter. I think having these hard nosed guys behind the bench may influence him the right way. Finish checks, quit the friendly banter - use 210lb frame more effectively. I know people think this player is slow, and he looks like he is, but you see bursts from him sometimes that make you scratch your head. He needs to have a better effort, throw a few more hits, and just add more bite in general. If these guys cant coach that into him I dont know who can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 OEL won't and maybe he'll want out. Miller might not either if he gets reigned in for continual lazy forechecking/passing plays. I see the bottom six and PK doing better. I think we'll see 2-1, 1-0 games now so as a whole guys like Lockwood, Dries, Pods, Bear...those guys will do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 54 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: This is just a prediction. Thrive: Garland Lazar Lockwood Mikheyev Studnicka Burroughs Schenn Struggle: Boeser Kuzmenko Miller OEL The rest are question marks. I think both Mikehyev and Kuzmenko will thrive tbh. KHL systems even though they encourage personal skill / creativity they are sill pretty structured system wise and low event compared to where the NHL is right now. I know its a clear step below but Russia is a pretty strict country in general and I think he is going to be better in this style of play than people are expecting. I think Miller / OEL / Boeser / Myers are the big ones. For OEL and Myers, can a new system insulate them better? Can he squeeze more out of them or optimize their usage better? For Boeser, he has been quoted to be a sensitive guy. He's slow and has looked out of the play a lot this season. How hard will they be on him? Will it be a more personal touch like a Dad / Son knowing he's lost his father or will it be Militant? And honestly I don't know what would work best for Boeser on the relationship side. But I do think Tocchet made a comment that was about Boeser. He said with a more structured system, where its predictable for teammates to know where they will be on he ice it can help players who aren't as quick or mobile. So Boeser who has looked out of the play, or chasing he play a lot would look a lot quicker, and have better opportunities with the puck or to make a play with a better structured team. I am summarizing my interpretation of what he said but I can buy into that. There will be a lot of pressure on the Miller Toch relationship and his on ice performance and emotional outbursts. I am going to hope for the best and can visualize a scenario that goes well and there is clear growth in Miller. But I could also see a world where its a volatile relationship and explodes on a losing streak or during a bad game at C. We will see! But after this little tenure here to end the year we will have clear proof on what players suck / aren't a fit with the core here going froward. And as a reminder Green and Shaw put the system in place and the offence dried up. Even If we have an adrenaline bump for a week or 2 of games vs basement of the league. I am expecting our offence to dry up, our goaltending to be just below league average, our PK to still struggle and for our PP to keep us in games. And for us to continue losing more than we win. I hope we stay in bottom 6 because we really do need to add a game breaking talent and at least have another solid pick / lottery ticket with an early second if we dont add any picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I think this season will finish out like a game of Boggle. We aren't even sure what pieces are going into the mix, but what comes out after it's been shaken is anyones guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I’ll be cheering for the opposition regardless of who they play. I truly want to see new coaching staff burn, and if they burn management will burn! If management burns so will owner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, King Heffy said: Literally no one will do well under this convict. This dirtbag is worse than Keenan and the team has too much character to give him any respect. join the kraken board and leave this one maybe!? I sense you will be sticking around to whine and bitch about the Canucks on here tho... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, sassbs said: I’ll be cheering for the opposition regardless of who they play. I truly want to see new coaching staff burn, and if they burn management will burn! If management burns so will owner Ironically, losing out would be the best possible thing they could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 i think under tocchet's structure the offensive players are really going to suffer.. he's gonna want them to play grind it out hockey even if they are skill and finess players.. i think the top 6 will suffer a bit in production while not much will happen to the bottom 6 coz that's basically how they play anyways.. we'll prolly see a decent drop in offence but not much change with defence coz really.. it's the players on defence that is an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Thrive: - Pettersson - Hughes - Miller - Mikheyev - Podkolzin - Hoglander - Lockwood - Lazar - Myers - Horvat Struggle: - Boeser - Kuzmenko - Garland - OEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Guys that are here now, in the lineup for 2023/24? Pettersson Horvat - Podkolzin Miller - Mikheyev Lazar - Studnicka Pederson Lockwood Hughes Myers OEL - Bear Dermott - Burroughs OUT - Boeser, Garland, Kuzmenko, Hoglander, Schenn, Joshua, Martin, Rathbone, Dries (Abby), Stillman (Abby) Edited January 24 by NUCKER67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: Tocchet made it sound like he’s going to lessen Miller’s load. I think Miller’s gonna be regulated to strictly more offensive usage. I don’t think he’ll be taking much of Horvat’s workload. It’ll be interesting to see how they address that. Alot of miller's back checking issue are because he's gassed. Imo he needs shorter shifts and less overall ice time and we will see that sort of thing decline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 One guy that I think is ecstatic with the coaching change is Garland. Coner started his NHL career with Tocchet as the head coach and has stated that he credits him for helping him to become an NHL player. I don't think Gar was disappointed to see Bruce leave the building. As for the others, it's anyone's guess. These players have spent most of their lives dealing with coaches with various styles. They know the adjustment they need to make to be on the right side of whomever is coaching the team. In the end, we all know that JR already has a long list of trade bait, so there will still be changes coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: Alot of miller's back checking issue are because he's gassed. Imo he needs shorter shifts and less overall ice time and we will see that sort of thing decline. Partially. The main thing is he isn’t a good defensive player(and has never been really) and a lot of his turnovers are more a result of poor decision making than fatigue. Mainly I think Tocchet will shelter Miller away from defensive responsibilities and strictly utilize him offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Neutral said: join the kraken board and leave this one maybe!? I sense you will be sticking around to whine and bitch about the Canucks on here tho... Ignored Users - Canucks Community so that you can stop whining and bitching about his posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Partially. The main thing is he isn’t a good defensive player(and has never been really) and a lot of his turnovers are more a result of poor decision making than fatigue. Mainly I think Tocchet will shelter Miller away from defensive responsibilities and strictly utilize him offensively. Bo will get the sheltered man nukes. Petey and Miller will match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Neutral said: join the kraken board and leave this one maybe!? I sense you will be sticking around to whine and bitch about the Canucks on here tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: Tocchet made it sound like he’s going to lessen Miller’s load. I think Miller’s gonna be regulated to strictly more offensive usage. I don’t think he’ll be taking much of Horvat’s workload. It’ll be interesting to see how they address that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: This is just a prediction. Thrive: Garland Lazar Lockwood Mikheyev Studnicka Burroughs Schenn Struggle: Boeser Kuzmenko Miller OEL The rest are question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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