PhillipBlunt Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 hours ago, canuckledraggin said: Sweet! Guntrix and 5th are here. This thread needed a few hundred more pages. Tell me more about how you were right... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 When u realize u were wrong about jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Don't care about past statements or feelings. Jakes evolving like most hoped he would. That's a net benefit to the team as a whole. Glad he's doing so well. If we want angst we can go read about how Juolevi is still never going to be anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) I believed in JV but you can't fault people for saying he had no hockey iq, the kid used to look at the bench constantly as if he was lost. His confidence was probably shot at the time as well. That's all in the past now and I think we call all agree he's come a long way and a person that doesn't get enough credit for that is Travis Green(you know that guy a few people wanted canned). There is no player that Travis Green has worked more with than JV both here and in Utica. Edited January 30, 2020 by Tre Mac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 6/30/2014 at 8:13 PM, Lenny Jones said: Jensen - Horvat - Kassian Virtanen - McCann - Fox Gaunce - Cassels - Vey (something tells me Shinkaruk might be on the move) This is what we used to think was a good prospect pool... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, DeNiro said: This is what we used to think was a good prospect pool... Haha, I absolutely hated the Jensen and Gaunce picks, sometimes you just know. Dane effin Fox, though he was a found wallet so no lost. That Jensen pick I'll never get, his numbers in Jr. weren't even that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Haha, I absolutely hated the Jensen and Gaunce picks, sometimes you just know. Dane effin Fox, though he was a found wallet so no lost. That Jensen pick I'll never get, his numbers in Jr. weren't even that good. He was a ppg player in his draft year. it was a 29th overall pick... that's pretty much the kind of player you get in that slot. none of the forwards who were chosen after him had stats that were any better lol. except for maybe ty rattie, who currently plays in the khl. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 6/30/2014 at 8:20 PM, Drouin said: Jensen plays RW Shinkaruk - Horvat - Kassian Virtanen - McCann - Jensen Gaunce - Cassels - Vey That looks much better. On 7/1/2014 at 12:32 AM, Derp... said: That third line looks beastly. Adding Virtanen and McCann really moved filled out our prospect pool for forwards. Our center depth is pretty elite for our prospects right now. 4th line could be Kenins LaBate Grenier at some point. On 7/1/2014 at 3:38 AM, Mr.53 said: Stalked. Among the best etc. I totally agree with him. Horvat, McCann, Gaunce, Cassels, Fox, and Vey. That is actually a really deep squad at center. Aside from a obvious number 1 center (which is pretty hard to find) this is super solid. I for one thing, one of these guys can probably turn into a number 1 center anyway. It's a matter of numbers. Chances are, at least one of these guys should underachieve, and at least one of these guys should overachieve. I know hindsight is 20/20 but our 2014 prospect pool sucked. Gaunce, Cassels, Fox and Vey were consider 'elite' depth at Centre. Our roster looking ahead (this was in 2014, so lets assume this roster was meant to be in place for 2016) was: Shinkaruk - Horvat - Kassian Virtanen - McCann - Jensen Gaunce - Cassels - Vey Kenins - LaBate - Grenier That hurts. Only 4 current NHLers. Wow. and its funny that 3 members of our elite centre depth were all on the projected (beastly) third line. So much for depth at centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Tre Mac said: Haha, I absolutely hated the Jensen and Gaunce picks, sometimes you just know. Dane effin Fox, though he was a found wallet so no lost. That Jensen pick I'll never get, his numbers in Jr. weren't even that good. Jensen is lighting it up in the KHL. He could just be a case of a late bloomer. I mean... Kassian only finally arrived as a true NHLer last season... which is still a year older than Jensen now. As for Gaunce... I've always been a supporter of his. He plays the game right, he got size, he's a strong 2-way player, he seemed to be able to elevate his game in the post-season... the type of player most team would like to have. Just weird that his AHL play didn't translate to the NHL. Perhaps just the NHL is a tad too quick for him... the AHL is loaded with such players. Retroactively looking back... 2012 wasn't really a strong draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Lancaster said: Jensen is lighting it up in the KHL. He could just be a case of a late bloomer. Seriously? lol You mean like all the KHL leaders that have come over and busted so hard they left North America in about 3 weeks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Always believed in Jake. He just had to mature and figure out his priorities. He's starting to play like he did back in junior. Wait another year, he will be scoring bombs from the point and going to the net hard, scoring on his underrated backhand more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Seriously? lol You mean like all the KHL leaders that have come over and busted so hard they left North America in about 3 weeks?? I didn't say he's a lock-in NHLer, just maybe he's finally figuring out how to be a true professional player. When you put things into perspective... he's only 26. Kassian at age 26 was just a glorfied AHLer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 19 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Yeah cause this page is loaded with quotes of me saying "I was right".. stop acting like you don't enjoy my contributions when you and others are continuously trying to get my attention. The kid was hot garbage for more than 4 year, get over it, I was accurate enough. Is Tanner Pearson and elite first line player now too or something? Wheres his love? I'm guessing nowhere cause he's not the favorited local boy? Weird. The fact that you call a "kid" "hot garbage" is enough to have us challenge you. Players sometimes DO take time to find their game in the NHL. So the hot garbage is a little harsh and you've allowed no period for a proper assessment. That's where the problem lies...that you were ragging on him right out of the gates. Hopefully it teaches you to pace yourself in the future and have more of a "wait and see" approach. A player with Jake's size and potential was given room to figure it out...thank goodness. Deflection in the last paragraph as you move away from a hard stance and try to water it down. Not really worth continuing though...you were wrong about Jake and that's a good thing. Quote My point was we should of had Nylander, Glass and Horvat not Petterson, Virtanen and Horvat. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 7:33 PM, The 5th Line said: I was just dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'm really hoping Jake's time on the first line teaches him how to use his physicality. In junior and in his first few NHL games he was trying to hard to go out, hit guys and play through them, whereas now he's forced to play a skilled game on our top line. I hope he can learn something from Miller about how to play hard and physically along the boards, and win puck battles instead of just run guys. He's evolving as a player and if we can get him to evolve into a J.T Miller copy I think we can be happy. Currently on pace for around 50 points is great but hopefully it's not the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazura92 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I feel like jake will really show people his ceiling in this years playoffs( assuming we’ll make them) call me crazy but I also feel he will resign and have a 70 point season in the next two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I'm really hoping Jake's time on the first line teaches him how to use his physicality. In junior and in his first few NHL games he was trying to hard to go out, hit guys and play through them, whereas now he's forced to play a skilled game on our top line. I hope he can learn something from Miller about how to play hard and physically along the boards, and win puck battles instead of just run guys. He's evolving as a player and if we can get him to evolve into a J.T Miller copy I think we can be happy. Currently on pace for around 50 points is great but hopefully it's not the limit. FWIW, they were talking about this on the radio the other day and apparently Jake's soaking up everything he can from JT9 like large, puppy shaped sponge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: FWIW, they were talking about this on the radio the other day and apparently Jake's soaking up everything he can from JT9 like large, puppy shaped sponge. well he wasn't great in the San Jose game on the 1st line. I saw him floating and not finishing his checks. he did score a goal ,but that was on the pp2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Jake has been developing nicely lately and this year is playing very well. Look at the company near him in terms of points: Some media are saying Ottawa could get a 1st round pick for Pageau, and Jake is getting as many points as he is. Likewise, people are saying Kreider will get a big haul for the Rags if he gets traded as a UFA. Yet once again Jake is doing just as well as Kreider is. I love Jake and hope he continues to develop. I hope he earns his keep on the top line and starts to play hard along the wall like JT Miller does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, The 5th Line said: He played like hot garbage, he looked like he was eating nothing but hot garbage and the team was hot garbage. You're making it sound like I had a say in if he got traded or not... I've been waiting for him to show up and actually look like a hockey player...now he has....now I'm happy...see how this works? He played like a prospect who needed some time to figure out the professional game. As a fan of the team, embrace that process and look for signs of encouragement. Calling any human being "hot garbage" - is that really something supportive? Was that meant to inspire? You say you are happy now - so you only happy with finished products and the mess along the way isn't something you can stomach? Perhaps why you get offside so many in discussions is many enjoy the ride. They enjoy watching the struggles the prospects go through before they emerge and even watching those who don't knowing that it was something for the kid to even get a shot. Taking joy out of calling a player on the team you purportedly root for as "hot garbage" until he lives up to YOUR expectations - wow. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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