-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Wow, has he gone that far downhill?? Or is it the injuries? Wouldn't mind if GMJB picked him up simply as depth in the stretch run (and hopefully playoffs). Could be useful in a limited role since he's a UFA after this season anyways. Edited February 14, 2020 by HKSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) why bother to do this if you're Buffalo? its not like its going to be a playoff year for them. I suppose they could be giving him a chance to play somewhere else since he's un-tradable. Edited February 14, 2020 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: why bother to do this if you're Buffalo? its not like its going to be a playoff year for them. I suppose they could be giving him a chance to play somewhere else since he's un-tradable. Or it's a bit of a message to guys who might actually want to be there but aren't pulling their weight. The AHL is not where an NHLer wants to be... obviously... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Wow, I guess no one wanted him even as a security rental. And, the report was that he asked for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I remember when some on CDC were creaming to get this guy. Bogosian might not be a bad choice as a depth piece for the post-season. $5 million is a bit rich, but he is on the final year of the deal. Considering that the Canucks are hoping for Tryamkin to return hopefully this year... not sure if there is any room for him, unless someone on the Canucks defense has a nagging injuring and they can use that LTIR trick like back in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarke Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 He will get claimed. Leafs are desperate for D. Maybe the Blues as well. Actually, I could see him performing better on a team like the Blues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundernuts Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 A return to Winnipeg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRick Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Montreal could make a claim since Weber is out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Throw him on the bottom pairing. We could use more depth and he may be better than Benn and Fantenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 $5,142,857 for the guy, don't think he fits our cap limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Always liked this player but I think injuries have really effected his game. I don't see a fit here at all but I'm guessing he is claimed by some team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Baertschi for Bogosian (retained to balance out the cap and after he has cleared waivers). They might be hard pressed to add players next year given their play, so having Baertschi signed for next year might be beneficial and could replace Sheary who has been underwhelming for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 It is a cap league. Most of the teams that could potentially use him in a depth role are capped out. Rebuilding teams not going to be very interested. Only way to get rid of him is likely to take a similar cap dump of a player who isn't working with similar term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, BobbyClarke said: He will get claimed. Leafs are desperate for D. Maybe the Blues as well. Actually, I could see him performing better on a team like the Blues. I think if Dubas has to tighten his belt any more he'll split in half. IMO he will clear and once he does, if Buffalo really wants to get rid of him, they'll have to retain 50% of his salary and get like a 7th rounder in exchange (or a useless D- prospect) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Baertschi for Bogosian (retained to balance out the cap and after he has cleared waivers). They might be hard pressed to add players next year given their play, so having Baertschi signed for next year might be beneficial and could replace Sheary who has been underwhelming for them. That is a reasonable idea, but we would probably have to add for them to take on salary for next year. They won’t retain salary just for the sake of getting a waiver guy like Baertschi back. Maybe a prospect and conditional pick if he re-signs with us. They seem like they will want to (yet again) tear it down as they have a ton of players on expiring contracts. There is every possibility that the guy has just been beaten down by playing on Buffalo and has never been on winning teams or made the playoffs in his entire career (and you can’t pin that on him). He could play like a man possessed if actually given a chance to play meaningful games for once. He could also be a target in the offseason if his value has been hurt a lot and comes relatively cheap. It doesn’t make sense for Buffalo to just be demoting him as they don’t need to add for this season and it doesn’t clear enough cap space to eat a bad contract. Maybe it is just punitive for the guy wanting a trade and deciding to play the kids instead of wasting minutes on a pending UFA. Edited February 14, 2020 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Provost said: That is a reasonable idea, but we would probably have to add for them to take on salary for next year. They won’t retain salary just for the sake of getting a waiver guy like Baertschi back. Maybe a prospect and conditional pick if he re-signs with us. They seem like they will want to (yet again) tear it down as they have a ton of players on expiring contracts. There is every possibility that the guy has just been beaten down by playing on Buffalo and has never been on winning teams or made the playoffs in his entire career (and you can’t pin that on him). He could play like a man possessed if actually given a chance to play meaningful games for once. He could also be a target in the offseason if his value has been hurt a lot and comes relatively cheap. It doesn’t make sense for Buffalo to just be demoting him as they don’t need to add for this season and it doesn’t clear enough cap space to eat a bad contract. Maybe it is just punitive for the guy wanting a trade and deciding to play the kids instead of wasting minutes on a pending UFA. They can have Palmu or a 6th/7th rounder. Cap space isn't a concern for them. Baertschi could get back into the NHL for them as soon as he's traded. The retention (probably only 1.5 million or so) is only so that we can fit him in and once again isn't a concern for them. They're not getting much back for Bogosian, but they get a slight gamble towards a potential middle 6 guy that basically replaces Sheary (in whom they could try to sell for picks/prospects). If this were to happen, then I'd be looking to trade Stecher for a pick which gives us more insurance at RD while we hopefully wait for Tryamkin and if he doesn't return this season, then we have some size that we could bring up for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, brownky said: Or it's a bit of a message to guys who might actually want to be there but aren't pulling their weight. The AHL is not where an NHLer wants to be... obviously... still gets you out of Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, theo5789 said: They can have Palmu or a 6th/7th rounder. Cap space isn't a concern for them. Baertschi could get back into the NHL for them as soon as he's traded. The retention (probably only 1.5 million or so) is only so that we can fit him in and once again isn't a concern for them. They're not getting much back for Bogosian, but they get a slight gamble towards a potential middle 6 guy that basically replaces Sheary (in whom they could try to sell for picks/prospects). If this were to happen, then I'd be looking to trade Stecher for a pick which gives us more insurance at RD while we hopefully wait for Tryamkin and if he doesn't return this season, then we have some size that we could bring up for the playoffs. When you do the math it really seems like Stetcher may be the odd man out moving forward. Too bad but business is business. Realistically what is he worth? I'm guessing at least a second? Second and a B prospect? Edited February 14, 2020 by rekker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 If we scooped him do we pay his entire cap hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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