redhdlois Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: BRUH JB you couldn't afford that??? He clearly passed on him period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Trebreh said: What we need to upgrade is a replacement for Tanev. That can come via trade. OJ and Raff are already better than Benn and Fanta in my eyes cause they could move the puck and make a good first pass as opposed to banging the puck along the glass lol. Rafferty is like 25 I think so he's not some young rookie. I think he is more advanced in his game as Stecher was when he joined the Canucks. Rafferty is only a year younger than Stecher. His time is now really. If he can't make the big club next year with all the openings we have then he probably won't ever make the NHL. I'm sure Benning will give him every opportunity to make the big club next year along with Juolevi. We need that one nasty SOB on the right side. Brandon Carlo is the guy. Get er done JB... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I'm a bit confused...originally it was reported that Stecher needed to be qualified by the Canucks, but on CapFriendly it stated that he did not need a QO. IF he did in fact need to be qualified by the Canucks, then I believe it would have had to have been a 2.5mil+ QO. And the Canucks would have been the only team held to that figure in Free Agency (all other teams could sign him to whatever he accepts). So again, if true, then JB could NOT offer Stech 1.7mil. Please correct me if wrong (is Wetcoaster around?...he knows this stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) the 'silver-lining' here - is that with Tanev and Stecher - two guys that were already great cap value at their previous cap hits - taking shaves on these contracts - it really indicates an opportune market to 'buy' in... And that extends to trade acquisitions - players' present cap hits are much harder to move - ie Steen rented for a 1st, 4th, Foley - moved for a 4th round pick...(same player he was). So teams looking to move good players with existing contracts - are taking significant asset value hits to do so. This makes me 'optimistic' that the team can buy a good asset - probably a heavier two-way type - at reasonable value. Ie what is Savard's market value in the present context? And perhaps it makes sense to spend a late pick in order to avoid the longer term (ie Savard will expire well before Tanev, for example...). And perhaps more interesting - will be the relatively tanking value of younger players whose contracts were signed pre-Covid - ie a Ristolainen already had perceived reduced value...now, cap hits like that are harder to move at value, and some of those teams have the additional pressure of financial challenges.... That does create opportune circumstances for Benning to sit back, be patient, and let the cards fall where they may. I don't think it's necessarily a horrible strategic position to be in to not have made moves yet - it could go either way.... Edited October 10, 2020 by oldnews 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 The revamp might just be that Hughes moves to the right. We are woefully thin on right shooting defencemen: Myers Rafferty Chatfield Eliot Woo Persson That's it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Looking at UFA list, some names I identified: Pietrangelo Bogosian Vatanen Hamonic Ceci Pysyk Trevor Van Riemsdyk Micheal Stone Probably not getting Pietrangelo, but there's some serviceable names there. There's also some good RFAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Serious question. Benning refused to give term to Tanev. Refused to give Stecher a comparable contract as he got. Both of which were actually affordable. Is there a potential fish Benning is after right now that justifies losing essentially our entire right side on the back end? Is he saving cap due to the covid economy in the NHL? Something is up and it's got me curious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, ABNuck said: I'm a bit confused...originally it was reported that Stecher needed to be qualified by the Canucks, but on CapFriendly it stated that he did not need a QO. IF he did in fact need to be qualified by the Canucks, then I believe it would have had to have been a 2.5mil+ QO. And the Canucks would have been the only team held to that figure in Free Agency (all other teams could sign him to whatever he accepts). So again, if true, then JB could NOT offer Stech 1.7mil. Please correct me if wrong (is Wetcoaster around?...he knows this stuff) Once the deadline had passed for offering a QO, Troy became a free agent (and capfriendly updated to reflect that). After that any offer could be put on the table after free agency started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Serious question. Benning refused to give term to Tanev. Refused to give Stecher a comparable contract as he got. Both of which were actually affordable. Is there a potential fish Benning is after right now that justifies losing essentially our entire right side on the back end? Is he saving cap due to the covid economy in the NHL? Something is up and it's got me curious JB is gunshy now about pulling the trigger after all the abuse he gets from CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: You all wanted Benning to improve the defense. Looks like that is what he is trying to do. You don't improve it by bringing back the exact same players. I am sure something is cooking. I smell the heat. Benning will bring us a top 4 right handed Dman. Just be patient... The Canucks needed to upgrade their D after watching the Golden Nuggets manhandle them and kept in their own zone for most of the game. Hello Rafferty, Olli the goalie and Tryamkin. They will be additions to the young core. Exciting times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, rekker said: I love Stetcher as much as anyone but when he fills in top 4 it's bad. We need to fill his depth but he loses a lot of one on one battles. A lot. I never said it was pretty, but the facts are, over the past three seasons, among Canucks defenders with any type of regular/significant icetime, Stecher is #1 in GF% (51.87) and has the lowest GA/60 (2.25). Same goes for the penalty kill. Among Canucks Dmen who played with the team from 2017-18 through 2019-20, Stech posted the lowest GA/60 while short handed, and the best GF% on the PK. Even if he loses “a lot” of one-on-one battles, his overall on-ice impact over the past three seasons, when it comes to simply keeping the puck out of the net at 5v5 and on the PK, has been better than every other Canucks Dman on last year’s roster (except Hughes, who had slightly better PK numbers in very limited minutes). Better than Tanev, Edler, Myers, Benn, Fanta, you name it. No other Canucks Dman has been as successful as Stecher in suppressing goals against while either playing at evens or on the penalty kill. That counts for something, in my book. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I'm happy for him, and suspect there was a good word from Biega in all of this somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: To be fair you literally played that card first. Let’s keep the Personal attacks out of it (both of you) and return to the subject matter shall we. Cheers@Warhippy @The Vancouver Connection Good Cop RNT If it were @StealthNuck you guys would time in detention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck2288 Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 I love the heart of Stetcher but he simply was too small to be effective for us in many key games 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfreako Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Damn. Losing, IMO, 3 of our guys who play with the most defensive tenacity (Stecher, Tanev, Marky) is going to be extremely hard to replace. Those guys played every game like it was a game 7. At least we didn't lose Motter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1.5 was roughly what I was hoping for. He likely would have taken that from his hometown team that also has chances of contending. It sucks to see him go but I am a closet Detroit fan so at least he's going somewhere I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Liked Stecher's compete but he was manhandled pretty much in the playoffs. Benning was clear that the playoffs showed where the team was at and that difficult decisions had to be made. Our defense was an issue and has been for quite some time with the quality of shots we surrender. Benning knows that has to change and thay means personnel have to change. Hopefully, that includes moving on from Baumgartner as he needs to shoulder some of the blame for a system that has consistently underperformed regardless of who was on the ice. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfreako Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Also, I'm glad Stecher's going to get more of an opportunity in Detroit. It sucked that he had to play his way into the Canucks lineup every season, even though he deserved to be in the opening night lineup the past couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Serious question. Benning refused to give term to Tanev. Refused to give Stecher a comparable contract as he got. Both of which were actually affordable. Is there a potential fish Benning is after right now that justifies losing essentially our entire right side on the back end? Is he saving cap due to the covid economy in the NHL? Something is up and it's got me curious He’s bringing in chara 6x6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Not sure if it's been asked or answered. But do we know if an offer was even made to Stetcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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