Slegr Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Yeah. It would not make any sense for the Canucks, who are chasing the Oilers for that last playoff spot, to give them a goalie that could haunt us in the pursuit of the playoffs. Would be the dumbest move Rutherford makes. He’s not going to make that move. If anything, if Jaro is going to be traded, it’s most likely going to be heading east. I do hope our new management is intelligent to realize this. It felt like Benning rarely factored in such things, like letting Markstrom and Tanev go to Flames, and Toffoli to Habs, only to see them cause havoc on our team nightly the following year in the all-Canadian division. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 hours ago, DeNiro said: I have no interest in helping the Oilers. I doubt they would pay that price either. If we’re determined to trade him to save cap send him out east. Then maybe we can get Jones from Philly as a replacement. I’m really enjoying the Oilers’ implosion this year. I don’t think McDavid stays. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Me_ said: I’m really enjoying the Oilers’ implosion this year. I don’t think McDavid stays. Tippet is yelling from the roof tops for his GM to get him a goalie. I see them having a couple good (with potential) young guys. If we could move Halak to them for Holloway, and take back Koskanin that would be excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Tippet is yelling from the roof tops for his GM to get him a goalie. I see them having a couple good (with potential) young guys. If we could move Halak to them for Holloway, and take back Koskanin that would be excellent. I’m with NeNiro. No help from Canucks to Oilers. It’s not about hate. It’s about tradition. The tradition of seeing the Oilers at the bottom. Edited January 7, 2022 by Me_ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Unless the Canucks keep winning at a very high clip, they'll be out of the playoff picture at the deadline. If they are, I fully expect Halak to be traded, and think he'll happily go to a team with a chance to win. I suspect the same with Motte, unless he's extended by the deadline. But Canucks still have a shot, so they're obviously not going to move anyone now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Yeah. It would not make any sense for the Canucks, who are chasing the Oilers for that last playoff spot, to give them a goalie that could haunt us in the pursuit of the playoffs. Would be the dumbest move Rutherford makes. He’s not going to make that move. If anything, if Jaro is going to be traded, it’s most likely going to be heading east. The only reason why it would make sense is if the return coming back is right, but, because of that, it wouldn't really make sense for the Oilers when they could be looking back east for something cheaper at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, D-Money said: Unless the Canucks keep winning at a very high clip, they'll be out of the playoff picture at the deadline. If they are, I fully expect Halak to be traded, and think he'll happily go to a team with a chance to win. I suspect the same with Motte, unless he's extended by the deadline. But Canucks still have a shot, so they're obviously not going to move anyone now. The Canucks are only 7 points out of the top wildcard position with 48 games to go. Unless they go back to underperforming, they’re making the playoffs. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, D-Money said: Unless the Canucks keep winning at a very high clip, they'll be out of the playoff picture at the deadline. If they are, I fully expect Halak to be traded, and think he'll happily go to a team with a chance to win. I suspect the same with Motte, unless he's extended by the deadline. But Canucks still have a shot, so they're obviously not going to move anyone now. Does Motte have a future with as a PK specialist now with BB using the top forwards on the kill? I see Motte as almost certainly being moved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Warhippy said: Are we talking Miller to the NYR for Schneider? I pose the following Miller to NYR Lafrennier (sp) 2022 2nd, 2023 1st 12 hours ago, Coconuts said: You'd think we'd have to take that and run if available Lot of potential upside there, we don't have anyone with his upside on LW in the system, and I think well of Hoglander I only suggested this because Lafrenier is at his lowest value. For a 1st OA he is looking like a poor mans yakupov right now. QMJHL bias or whatever. Miller is EXACTLY what the rags need right now and would make them almost instant contenders. YOu'd be choosing between two-5 years of contention with Miller or risking the loss of a number of key pieces when that meagre $5 million in cap space is gone with K'Andre Millers first big salary bump and the first contract to a viable goalie/back up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: I only suggested this because Lafrenier is at his lowest value. For a 1st OA he is looking like a poor mans yakupov right now. QMJHL bias or whatever. Miller is EXACTLY what the rags need right now and would make them almost instant contenders. YOu'd be choosing between two-5 years of contention with Miller or risking the loss of a number of key pieces when that meagre $5 million in cap space is gone with K'Andre Millers first big salary bump and the first contract to a viable goalie/back up I kind of doubt NYR is about to give up on a 1st overall 2 years after drafting him. Even Yakupov was in Edmonton for 4 years before being traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The Lock said: I kind of doubt NYR is about to give up on a 1st overall 2 years after drafting him. Even Yakupov was in Edmonton for 4 years before being traded. Then we're back to Schneider a 1st and 2nd. They have far mroe options in the pipe for forward than they do defensemen And again, Miller checks every single box they need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: Tippet is yelling from the roof tops for his GM to get him a goalie. I see them having a couple good (with potential) young guys. If we could move Halak to them for Holloway, and take back Koskanin that would be excellent. Do we really want to help Edmonton? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Casey DeSmith is struggling in Pittsburgh but is still a .913 career goaltender. A Halak for DeSmith swap saves us the cap space next year, provides an adequate stop gap, and a potential extra piece to move at the deadline if we are out of it by then with the ability to call up Dipietro for games down the stretch. DeSmith is a player Rutherford signed and if he plays decent for us could probably be brought back for a similar or lower cap hit next year. If we could squeeze a late round pick as well that would be a bonus. I could also see a bigger trade play out. Zucker has struggled immensely but was acquired by Rutherford and had his best season under Boudreau. That said, even at 50% salary retained I don't see who we can send back their way to even out salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Me_ said: The Canucks are only 7 points out of the top wildcard position with 48 games to go. Unless they go back to underperforming, they’re making the playoffs. Maybe the league will actually let us play more games than the teams we are chasing so that what you say is really true. When you account for games in hand and points percentage, we are 10 points out of that spot, 11 to bump them out. We are actually closer to overtaking Calgary for 3rd place in the division than that. We are 7th out of 10 teams in the conference currently in the wildcard hunt, that means there are 5 teams between us and a wildcard spot. It doesn't matter much that Edmonton is imploding.. they aren't even in a wildcard spot when you consider their winning %. Both Dallas and Winnipeg are ahead of them. We don't have to underperform to miss the playoffs even remotely. We have to continue to overperform for the remainder of the season to have a chance at a wildcard spot and somehow outplay a bunch of teams by a good margin even though they play a ton of games between each other to guarantee points to one of them. We have to play about .650 hockey the rest of the way out to hit 96 points and the historic playoff bar. Not many teams can do that. Edited January 7, 2022 by Provost 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Tippet is yelling from the roof tops for his GM to get him a goalie. I see them having a couple good (with potential) young guys. If we could move Halak to them for Holloway, and take back Koskanin that would be excellent. Why in holy hell would you subject our guys to that useless seive Edmonton calls a goalie? I'd consider the deal only of they didn't include Koskinen. Edited January 7, 2022 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Provost said: Maybe the league will actually let us play more games than the teams we are chasing so that what you say is really true. When you account for games in hand and points percentage, we are 10 points out of that spot, 11 to bump them out. We are actually closer to overtaking Calgary for 3rd place in the division than that. We are 7th out of 10 teams in the conference currently in the wildcard hunt, that means there are 5 teams between us and a wildcard spot. It doesn't matter much that Edmonton is imploding.. they aren't even in a wildcard spot when you consider their winning %. Both Dallas and Winnipeg are ahead of them. We don't have to underperform to miss the playoffs even remotely. We have to continue to overperform for the remainder of the season to have a chance at a wildcard spot and somehow outplay a bunch of teams by a good margin even though they play a ton of games between each other to guarantee points to one of them. We have to play about .650 hockey the rest of the way out to hit 96 points and the historic playoff bar. Not many teams can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Why in holy hell would you subject our guys to that useless seive Edmonton calls a goalie? I'd consider the deal only of they didn't include Koskinen. To get Holloway? We could send Kostkanin to Abby (saves a million) and use that million to bring up Silovs to be backup? And we get Holloway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: To get Holloway? We could send Kostkanin to Abby (saves a million) and use that million to bring up Silovs to be backup? And we get Holloway. You want someone with Koskinen's attitude around the prospects? He publicly moaned about the coach getting sick of him stinking up the joint consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Me_ said: The Canucks are only 7 points out of the top wildcard position with 48 games to go. Unless they go back to underperforming, they’re making the playoffs. I have nothing against unbridled optimism. But they still have a large hill to climb. Even if they play well for the remainder of the season, odds still are that they'll miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 19 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: LOL, CDC 14th overall Dylan Holloway + for Halak? No kidding. Some of these proposals are way out there. Even Halak in his prime wouldn't net such a return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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