CanucksCountry Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, Dazzle said: There is definitely a ton of bias in this market. I think Garland has been a great pickup for the Canucks, but some people think Garland is not a great fit (ridiculous). I agree i wouldn't move him unless it was a stupid offer not too guy is a warrior and creates alot of space and is a huge pest, cant be same said for Zacha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Zacha for Garland straight up is on the cards and makes our team better. Pretty lateral trade, we lose a bit of skill in Garland but gain size and someone who can play 3C in Zacha. Will really open up a Miller trade if we get Zacha first...and if we don't, we've got some great center depth and options. Loading Bo and Miller together with Brock was too much for Toronto to handle early in the game. Petey as 2C with Podkolzin and the Zacha nailing down the 3rd line gives us some good depth and hopefully takes checking responsibility away from Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksCountry Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 6 hours ago, mll said: Rutherford might not see Garland as part of the team going forward. Rachel Doerrie worked for NJD under Hynes and would have insight on Zacha. Doerrie really doesn't have alot of say in terms of the team, as far as JR i doubt it Bruce seems to really like Garland but JR was also quoted saying they really aren't looking to move one of the scorers so i doubt Garland is on the way out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, CanucksCountry said: Doerrie really doesn't have alot of say in terms of the team, as far as JR i doubt it Bruce seems to really like Garland but JR was also quoted saying they really aren't looking to move one of the scorers so i doubt Garland is on the way out Where was that JR quote about not looking to move a scorer? Rutherford wants to hear from everyone before making a decision - probably also the analytics angle. Would guess she would feed her intel to Aidan Fox who leads the department and he would be part of the discussions on who to target from the different teams. Someone has decided that Zacha would be an interesting target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I really like Zacha from what I've watched. I think Garland has a bit more value, especially to NJD cuz he's locked up, and they're not exactly an attractive destination right now. I know Rutherford has stated increasing cap space as a major goal. Rather than NJD adding a sweetener, I wonder if they would take on cap. Dickinson hasn't really pulled his cap weight since getting here. If Zacha was acquired the Canucks could play any of Horvat, Miller, Pettersson, Zacha, Lammikko at C (and Highmore in a pinch). NJD doesn't really a shutdown C, they have cap space, and could give Dickinson another chance. Garland + Dickinson for Zacha + a throw-in depth player for the season (Bastian over Chiasson? Geertsen over Hunt?). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Most New Jersey dans dont even like Zacha complaining on twitter and NJ beat writers saying Zacha is a lazy player who competes only when he wants to. Hard no for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 hours ago, brian42 said: Agreed. 6’3” 210 LBS, .5 pts/Game Center with 50% face win percentage. perfect fit if we are buyers, let’s hope we could get him for a good price. send them dickinson and poolman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 If NJD would take some cap, I'd do Garland + Dickinson + Poolman for Zacha and a pick (2nd or 3rd?). As much as everyone would love Miller for Schneider, I think he's playing his way into their untouchables list. Rather, I'd keep Miller and use the extra cap we save with this trade + Luongo's 3M coming off the books to finally sign Ristolainen for 5.5M. He's having an off year so might be able to snag him cheap. Boeser - Miller - Pettersson Pearson - Horvat - Podkolzin Hoglander - Zacha - Motte Highmore - Lammikko - Lockwood Hughes - Ristolainen OEL - Myers Schenn - Hamonic Rathbone Decent up front, decent 5 centers, decent size and toughness across our defence, could throw Rathbone in to replace Schenn if we want more puck moving ability. Really beefs up our team without sacrificing offence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 People have said straight up for garland or boes hahaha! The same people who would pay to get rid of dickinson / pears.... Zacha is literally a hybrid between those two players. Nothing special at this point. Watching a highlight reel is a bad way to judge a player. What does he bring to a terrible devils team? We don't improve our team trading top 6 for middle 6 guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Don’t trade top 6 pieces for bottom 6 pieces. Bottom 6 guys are easy to replace through failed top prospects or free agency. It’s much harder to get top 6 guys! If Garland is getting traded out you need to be getting top prospects with top 6 potential which Zacha and McLeod are not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Don’t trade top 6 pieces for bottom 6 pieces. Bottom 6 guys are easy to replace through failed top prospects or free agency. It’s much harder to get top 6 guys! If Garland is getting traded out you need to be getting top prospects with top 6 potential which Zacha and McLeod are not. I think he was on a 55 point pace last year, so I'd say he's a tweener there. He can also play C and help out the pk.........they have other needs tyey have to fill. Again, I'd rather use Boeser than Garland, but they likely want cost controlled players coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Am I completely missing something here, cause I'm shocked I just read poster willing to trade Boeser for Zacha straight up. Garland for Zacha straight up would well like a huge loss to me. I don't mind us targeting Zacha, but how people are just willing to give up our best trade chips away for a 25-35 point center, who has ok center abilities but has fallen out of favour due to reported consistency seems crazy to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Marek says " We believe the Canucks are interested in, or at least curious about" does not mean the Canucks ARE interested; just that Marek, and as many personalities he has in his head to deserve the royal "we", believe they are..... Edited February 13, 2022 by gurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: I think he was on a 55 point pace last year, so I'd say he's a tweener there. He can also play C and help out the pk.........they have other needs tyey have to fill. Again, I'd rather use Boeser than Garland, but they likely want cost controlled players coming back That was his best year and now he’s on pace for 40 this year. Tweener is fine to say because it’s hard to get two top 6 centers on a team at a time. For a Stanley Cup contending team Zacha is a 3rd liner. I think the minute you start trading top 6 talent for middle/bottom 6 talent we’ll be struggling to score goals with bad offensive depth. If Garland is getting traded with that much term left to NJ Mercer should be the player coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Demko was and had to be incredible again. It's not sustainable. He needs a better team in front of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said: That was his best year and now he’s on pace for 40 this year. Tweener is fine to say because it’s hard to get two top 6 centers on a team at a time. For a Stanley Cup contending team Zacha is a 3rd liner. I think the minute you start trading top 6 talent for middle/bottom 6 talent we’ll be struggling to score goals with bad offensive depth. If Garland is getting traded with that much term left to NJ Mercer should be the player coming back. You could say the same about both boeser and Garland though, both significantly off their pace of last year and all three on a pace to be within 10 points of each other this year.........the difference being Zacha can play C and help the pk. That said, NJD would have to sweeten the deal for either player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Demko was and had to be incredible again. It's not sustainable. He needs a better team in front of him. Zacha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It'll cost more than Garland. Good player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, CanucksCountry said: Doerrie really doesn't have alot of say in terms of the team, as far as JR i doubt it Bruce seems to really like Garland but JR was also quoted saying they really aren't looking to move one of the scorers so i doubt Garland is on the way out Kind of contradicts JR exact words. she will have an equal voice and her voice like others will all be heard. If she has insight into a player and that player checks off some of the boxes of what the team is looking. The management needs to be looked at a more of committee Shes part of it. they just had a meeting to talk about the direction and needs they see this team needing. pretty clear JR had the final say but why hire a group of smart diverse individuals if your not going to listen them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 11 hours ago, mll said: Irfaan Gaffar says he knows that Boeser wants to stay and be part of that young group. He thinks they will find a way to get a deal done. Boeser 25 soon will sign 5 yrs deal with average cap hit between 6.3--6.7 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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