J-P Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, NHL97OneTimer said: That's wishful thinking. We're one of the top teams when the team plays really well. We've certainly won games due to Demko but we certainly haven't looked like a top team many games this year. Tbh, I'm not sure we're a top team in any sense at any point right now. We do have the goaltender and we do have stretches within games when we play really well, but that's still on a level below the top teams in the league. For the first half of last game against the flames, they were clearly the better team and outplayed us. Most of our games against teams above us in the standing look like that. Nothing wrong with any of this, we're simply not there yet. This year - especially considering the bad start - has been a step forward and if we continue to improve and tweak our roster without sacrificing picks the future looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I guess so, but who will play D? A max cap team should not be near the bottom of the standings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 This must just be news because management are listening to calls for anyone and everything, but realistically we'd be doomed and I doubt it'd happen. Lose one of our few good right handed top-4 defencemen and we're pretty much kissing the playoffs goodbye unless there's multiple incoming shifts and trades coming in. The Canucks are on a bit of a streak right now, win 4 and lose 2 sort of thing, which bodes well, so let's not do any tinkering any time soon. I hope they sit pat this TDL if they continue to win this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I agree that we should keep Myers.....at least until the Canucks find a younger, cheaper option that will fill his role without us taking a step backwards. I'd rather see Hamonic and Poolman pack up personally. Yes I can see the logic there for sure. After typing it out I looked at the result and it leaves us without a minute muncher there. However, if we are looking to retool next year could be a transition anyway, meaning we possibly suck a bit. I don't think there is any way we're re-signing him in two years. Hamonic, Schenn, Poolman, Burroughs could fill in for a year, with a 3LD signed in ufa. Then the year after next we would use Harmonic's money to dip into free agency. UFA Schneider/Young D trade Burroughs Poolman Woo Unfortunately Poolman has negative value with the length of his contract and a so so 3 pt year. Hamonic is a goof/part-time player this year he'll be impossible to move. If people want to re-sign Miller/Boeser/Bo something has got to give and this move would be proactive based on a retool. I don't know what Benning was thinking with signing all these RD and no LD last year. It's kind of hurting us a bit moving forward. Edited February 26, 2022 by Gawdzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Yes I can see the logic there for sure. After typing it out I looked at the result and it leaves us without a minute muncher there. However, if we are looking to retool next year could be a transition anyway, meaning we possibly suck a bit. I don't think there is any way we're re-signing him in two years. Hamonic, Schenn, Poolman, Burroughs could fill in for a year, with a 3LD signed in ufa. Then the year after next we would use Harmonic's money to dip into free agency. UFA Schneider/Young D trade Burroughs Poolman Woo Unfortunately Poolman has negative value with the length of his contract and a so so 3 pt year. Hamonic is a goof/part-time player this year he'll be impossible to move. If people want to re-sign Miller/Boeser/Bo something has got to give and this move would be proactive based on a retool. I don't know what Benning was thinking with signing all these RD and no LD last year. It's kind of hurting us a bit moving forward. I think I'd rather have Hamonic at around $3m than Myers at $6m.......and I like Myers. Hamonic is looking really good and if he can stay healthy, he's a better dman than Myers, imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, stawns said: I think I'd rather have Hamonic at around $3m than Myers at $6m.......and I like Myers. Hamonic is looking really good and if he can stay healthy, he's a better dman than Myers, imo Me too. If Myers used his size and strength a bit more, I'd feel differently. But he doesn't and he seems focused on being more offensively minded at times than defensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted February 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, -DLC- said: Me too. If Myers used his size and strength a bit more, I'd feel differently. But he doesn't and he seems focused on being more offensively minded at times than defensive. To be fair, when Myers uses his size and strength he gets penalized for his height. Probably doesn’t know what he can or can’t get away with anymore. They’ve called some pretty weak calls on the guy. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: To be fair, when Myers uses his size and strength he gets penalized for his height. Probably doesn’t know what he can or can’t get away with anymore. They’ve called some pretty weak calls on the guy. I thought of that as I typed it. It handcuffs him for sure. But he should use it anyhow in my view. In the right situations of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: I think manly because he makes $6m and we have 5 RD in Myers, Hamonic, Schenn, Poolman, and Burroughs. He's going to expire in 2 years, Poolman and Hamonic could already both be tough to get rid of and we're rumored to be in the market for a young RD as well. So quite a lot of reasons actually. It would probably be a really good idea in all actuality if possible. Great so I guess the solution is to spend the next two years with weak defense. Every time he comes out of a lineup we looked. so thin on the backend. She’s locked up for two more years. That is not a hindrance. That is a good contract on a super important position on the team. Why do people wanna suck so bad around here? Everybody wants to trade away our best players for futures. Guys like Miller and Myers have more term. Let’s use this time with these guys on our team to win as many games as possible. Try convincing the players on this roster that it’s OK to suck now cause it’ll pay off in two or three years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 41 minutes ago, bad alice french said: Great so I guess the solution is to spend the next two years with weak defense. Every time he comes out of a lineup we looked. so thin on the backend. She’s locked up for two more years. That is not a hindrance. That is a good contract on a super important position on the team. Why do people wanna suck so bad around here? Everybody wants to trade away our best players for futures. Guys like Miller and Myers have more term. Let’s use this time with these guys on our team to win as many games as possible. Try convincing the players on this roster that it’s OK to suck now cause it’ll pay off in two or three years. One more year of Miller and then what? Do you think they're contenders next year? Myers, I could see staying at a reasonable rate, but I'd take Hamonic over Myers anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, stawns said: I think I'd rather have Hamonic at around $3m than Myers at $6m.......and I like Myers. Hamonic is looking really good and if he can stay healthy, he's a better dman than Myers, imo Completely agree. Hamonic is a good deal at 3m. Would be nice if we get another defense-first specialist like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, eeeeergh said: Completely agree. Hamonic is a good deal at 3m. Would be nice if we get another defense-first specialist like him. Yup matching up our superstar LSD eilite skill (Hughes, OEL, Bone) with Defensive minded tough RSD, like Hamonic is good. Keep Schenn too. Myers can go. Pool Clearner can go too. Although, he is cheap, so he could slot in with Bone on the bottom pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, stawns said: One more year of Miller and then what? Do you think they're contenders next year? Myers, I could see staying at a reasonable rate, but I'd take Hamonic over Myers anyway We are a lot closer than you seemingly think my friend. There’s so much parity in this league that all it would take would be a tweak on or forward depth and one more top 4 defender. Let’s stop trying to envision this team as a perennial Stanley Cup contender for years to come. We just want to be a good solid playoff team and go from there. Once you’re in the show all it takes is to get on a good run and it’s anybody’s tournament. If we trade away the lakes of Myers and Miller right now for prospects and picks and other teams’ cast offs, we lose that trade all day long. Deal with Miller next season. Deal with Myers towards the end of his contract. What’s the rush? These guys are signed and ready to play and are two of our best players. Hamonic over Myers? Wow! I am surprised you feel this way Stawns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Completely agree. Hamonic is a good deal at 3m. Would be nice if we get another defense-first specialist like him. If we could move out two of Myers/Hamonic/Poolman and sign Lyubushkin while bringing in a young RHD in trade.... It would be FANTASTIC IMO. Edited February 26, 2022 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I guess I'm part of the few who thinks we should keep Myers. He's played much better under BB while playing tons of minutes. He's physical, uses his skating/reach well and clears the front of the net. Opposing teams seem to play more on their toes when he's on the ice, especially in scrums. Re-sign the guy at a bargain rate. Move Hamonic/Poolman and some other forwards first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 hours ago, stawns said: I think I'd rather have Hamonic at around $3m than Myers at $6m.......and I like Myers. Hamonic is looking really good and if he can stay healthy, he's a better dman than Myers, imo No way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, beni said: I guess so, but who will play D? A max cap team should not be near the bottom of the standings But this max cap team was also pooooorly coached to put us there to begin with. look at the record under Bruce. really only a handful of dud games and poor performances, plus some learned bad habits that are still being coached out of the players. we’ve also been pretty fortunate with injuries so far, whereas other seasons that has taken a toll on chemistry and production. as a whole, this team has already vastly improved since the changes, and at pace since then, we are a playoff team. not saying we would withstand the attrition that is the playoffs with the current roster makeup, but, realistically if the season started when Bruce took over we’d be talking potentially talking right now about who we might be able to add for our cup run Edited February 26, 2022 by RWJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 hours ago, stawns said: I think I'd rather have Hamonic at around $3m than Myers at $6m.......and I like Myers. Hamonic is looking really good and if he can stay healthy, he's a better dman than Myers, imo Can’t wait until Hamonic is off this team. We’ve had enough of injured defensemen on this team and that is still more tolerable than his anti vaccine bull crap; that handicapped the team. I also don’t get the Myers hate on. The dude is gigantic and he’s playing super well with OEL. He is not the problem on this team. The major problem on this team was coaching. That has been rectified. The Canucks sport a winning percentage since Boudreau took over. Is it a perfect team? No. Are they playing well? They’re playing immensely better than they were, and are playing like the assembled team they are on paper when Benning made the moves. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 59 minutes ago, Me_ said: Can’t wait until Hamonic is off this team. We’ve had enough of injured defensemen on this team and that is still more tolerable than his anti vaccine bull crap; that handicapped the team. I also don’t get the Myers hate on. The dude is gigantic and he’s playing super well with OEL. He is not the problem on this team. The major problem on this team was coaching. That has been rectified. The Canucks sport a winning percentage since Boudreau took over. Is it a perfect team? No. Are they playing well? They’re playing immensely better than they were, and are playing like the assembled team they are on paper when Benning made the moves. I have zero hate for Myers, quite the opposite.........and I agree about the injuries with Hamonic. However, when healthy he's a steadier dman, imo, especially if he comes cheaper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hughes Schenn OEL Hamonic Bone Poolman Schneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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