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44 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said:

I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's his view. He uses  specific examples, Goldy scoring in his first game and getting bench, that isn't NHL hockey, that's just outright stupid, there is no logic. Goldy's effective when he scores, and if he's getting benched right when he does that, what's the point?

I remember I did something similar to Goldy and the coach came down to me on the bench and said you're lucky you scored or you'd be spending the rest of the game on the bench. According WD it doesn't matter if you score if you choose offense over defense you sit on the bench. I get 100% what Tryamkin is saying too. Everyone, here, thought he deserved more ice time. it didn't make sense, as he says, for him to be seeing LESS ice time with more injuries. He was good enough and on a bad enough team to get more ice time. Just all around bad coaching. It wasn't like he was making blatantly stupid plays out there.

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This seems more of his message when he left.

He had no idea why he was playing or it playing.  He would have a good game and the. Get scratched.  He went further to talk about the same thing with Goldobin.

 

I don't know many of us that didn't have the same issues with WD.  He had a plan and made decisions about players and deployment and didn't change it regardless of how badly it was working.

Megna in the PP, sure give it a whirl.  Doesn't score in a dozen games... maybe change it?  Nope.

 

Larsen is a terrible D?  Play him anyways.  Guddy and Hutton not working?  Keep them together.  Tryamkin comes in and is a better D than a few guys getting minutes, sit him for periods and games.

 

This may be part of why he was fired.

 

Other players this season have talked about how there is no grey area with Green and how he tell them exactly what he expects.  That is clearly "subtle" way of contrasting it with the previous regime otherwise it could ha e been left unsaid.

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1 minute ago, Provost said:

This seems more of his message when he left.

He had no idea why he was playing or it playing.  He would have a good game and the. Get scratched.  He went further to talk about the same thing with Goldobin.

 

I don't know many of us that didn't have the same issues with WD.  He had a plan and made decisions about players and deployment and didn't change it regardless of how badly it was working.

Megna in the PP, sure give it a whirl.  Doesn't score in a dozen games... maybe change it?  Nope.

 

Larsen is a terrible D?  Play him anyways.  Guddy and Hutton not working?  Keep them together.  Tryamkin comes in and is a better D than a few guys getting minutes, sit him for periods and games.

 

This may be part of why he was fired.

Desjardins is the worst coach we have ever had! And that includes Jack LaForge...never have I seen such a disgusting example of 'coaching' at the NHL level. 

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55 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said:

I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's his view. He uses  specific examples, Goldy scoring in his first game and getting bench, that isn't NHL hockey, that's just outright stupid, there is no logic. Goldy's effective when he scores, and if he's getting benched right when he does that, what's the point?

That's a good point to bring up, but I remember his goals he scored last year. They were nice but came at the expense of playing a team game and a team system. That's why I have trouble with what Nikita said. Of course not all his goals last year were because of his lack of team play, but there were quite a few instances during his short stint last season where he provided spark a certain points during the game then floated around blowing assignments for the rest looking to cheat on a play and get a quick goal. I thinks that's more why Willie would bench him...maybe he gets too excited when he scores a goal lol?? Of course this is just my point of view, and I do see your logic as well. 

 

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28 minutes ago, The Sedge said:

It seems to me that a lot of Russian players have this same mindset.  

I hate to say it's true because there are so many good Russians playing in the NHL and it's not fair to them...but it does have validation. Lots of players from different nationalities do the same thing if they don't get what they're seeking for in the NHL, but it's not maybe as frequent as how many times it happens with Russian players. Perhaps it's because Russians know they have the KHL which by all accounts is the next best league in the world with the next best pay for a professional.

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I think he should have got more playing time as he was starting to become a top 4 D man for us

 

I do not blame the guy if he wanted to be closer to home and got treated bad by the coach which we all saw

 

He may have a change of heart soon watching this team get more youth and we all hope way better

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1 hour ago, JamesBlondage said:

Desjardins is the worst coach we have ever had! And that includes Jack LaForge...never have I seen such a disgusting example of 'coaching' at the NHL level. 

I've never been so frustrated with lineups & deployment. If you concentrated hard(like playing a chess GM) to think of the worst possible combos, Whack-a-Willie would have them planned out promptly. 3 yr nightmare.

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1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

I've never been so frustrated with lineups & deployment. If you concentrated hard(like playing a chess GM) to think of the worst possible combos, Whack-a-Willie would have them planned out promptly. 3 yr nightmare.

he helped with our rebuild though, because before him we were retooling lol With the way he deployed lines we had to do a full scale rebuild!

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On 9/25/2017 at 5:26 AM, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Well, I am assured that he hasn't completely shut down the possibility of coming back to VAN. Sounds to me (as has been mentioned previously) that he and Willie were not seeing eye to eye, and he left because of that. I'm sure he'll be paying attention to what Green does and asks the boys he knows on the team what they think of him. Wouldn't be surprised that if all goes well, we will see him back in the near future.... Which would be a huge boost to our d-core! 

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27 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

It wasn't the players fault they lost, WD was terrible. He lost that series. 

 

Completely out coached. It was embarrassing. He'd roll out the 4th line after a tv timeout because it was their turn instead of putting his "rested" 1st line out. Never seen such idiocy in the playoffs and I"ve been watching this game for over 3 decades. 

 

That was just a joke. I was in complete disbelief watching that happen before my eyes. 

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26 minutes ago, Kungfudru said:

That was just a joke. I was in complete disbelief watching that happen before my eyes. 

Couldn't change up break out and couldn't counter the forecheck. 

 

Worse coach in Canucks history, and I really really dislike Tom Renney's coaching. 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Couldn't change up break out and couldn't counter the forecheck. 

 

Worse coach in Canucks history, and I really really dislike Tom Renney's coaching. 

 

 

I couldn't stand Renney when he was the coach of the Canucks..I thought he was arrogant...I guess when he started treating the players like High School kids,they basically tuned him out...They never respected him......Good to see that Tom and Willie have found each other.

 

 

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