[3-Way Trade] Maple Leafs acquire Ryan O'Reilly, Noel Acciari, Josh Pillar; Blues acquire Adam Gaudette, Mikhail Abramov, 2023 1st-round pick, 2023 3rd-round pick, 2024 2nd-round pick; Wild acquire 2025 4th-round pick

[mll]

51 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

It's hard to say really. Islanders currently hold the last wild card spot and, if they somehow make a deeper run to the playoffs than the Leafs, Canucks get a later 1st round pick. Plus the 2nd and 3rd are more tradable assets than a prospect Islanders gave up on 

Only if NYI makes it to the conference finals and Toronto doesn't.  If Toronto loses in round 1 but NYI makes it to round 2 it wouldn't change the draft order.

 

Draft order for the teams eliminated in the 1st 2 rounds is determined by the points at the end of the regular season (with the divisional winners losing in round 1 or 2) coming after that group.  NYI and Toronto not likely to win their divisions anymore and NYI not likely to catch up to Toronto.  

 

Edited February 18, 2023 by mll

[iinatcc]

4 minutes ago, mll said:

Only if NYI makes it to the conference finals and Toronto doesn't.  If Toronto loses in round 1 but NYI makes it to round 2 it wouldn't change the draft order.

 

Draft order for the teams eliminated in the 1st 2 rounds is determined by the points at the end of the regular season (with the divisional winners losing in round 1 or 2) coming after that group.  NYI and Toronto not likely to win their divisions anymore and NYI not likely to catch up to Toronto.  

 

as yeah good point. though there's that other possibility. NYI has made it to the conference finals twice in the last 3 years

[cripplereh]

37 minutes ago, mll said:

Only if NYI makes it to the conference finals and Toronto doesn't.  If Toronto loses in round 1 but NYI makes it to round 2 it wouldn't change the draft order.

 

Draft order for the teams eliminated in the 1st 2 rounds is determined by the points at the end of the regular season (with the divisional winners losing in round 1 or 2) coming after that group.  NYI and Toronto not likely to win their divisions anymore and NYI not likely to catch up to Toronto.  

 

I always hated that rule.1st tes out in the first round should falling order of games played. 

 

 

Team gets swept they are ahead in the draft then any team going 5 games and so on.

 

That isy feeling on it.

 

 

[Drakrami]

Wow huge payment for an underperforming O'Reilly rental. Dubas is really going all in before he gets fired (no ill meaning, it's the truth). Minnesota must be Leafs fans.. taking salary for a 4th... 

[hammertime]

58 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

And they waited to do something. 

[Sharpshooter]

2 minutes ago, hammertime said:

[Biff Tannen]

6 hours ago, combover said:

Great way to circumvent the rules.

 

75% retained 

if that was van the league would make a new rule and punish them for it. 

they  should have got one more team involved got 100% retained 

Quite impressive how much you've got wrong in such a short post. Two teams can retain up to 50% on one contract, it probably shouldn't be allowed but it is and has been used many times before. Three teams is against the rules, but even if it wasn't that would be 87.5% retained.

 

 

 

[canuckpuckluck1]

8 hours ago, mll said:

O'Reilly's salary is 1M this season (rest was bonus) with only ~30% left to pay.   The Wild pick up 75K in salary and 1.875M cap hit.

  

@mll i was a bit perplexed by the deal at first glance. It seemed like Minny got hosed on the deal. But if that is the transaction then it makes good sense. 

Burn some cap that you have for 75K for a free pick, well played I say

[jyu]

6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Great example.

[canuckpuckluck1]

5 hours ago, BPA said:

Yes.

 

Yes I have.

 

Me too and isnt it fun!

 

[canuckpuckluck1]

I don't know much but it seems like a massive payment to get past the first round but I suppose its all about small bites...thats the way to eat an elephant

 

[tas]

3 words: first round exit. 

[IBatch]

9 hours ago, DeNiro said:

It’s why this deal won’t matter.

 

They’re even with Tampa up from now but the Lightning have far superior D and goaltending.

Last year that was a better series than the final.   About as even as any series has been as far as every metric goes in a long time.    Not saying COL wouldn't have beat them anyways because they would have.     TB's experience ... held through.   For sure they have the goaltending, huge part why they won two cups.   O'Reilly line versus Horvats line was something to watch.    They can lose a key guy now.   TO's last chance really, they should know that.    Man the East is better than the West aside from a couple teams.  

[Mustard Tiger]

Nice work STL. Realizing what you are and going from all in on playoffs to 3 first and multiple 2nds and 3rds. I see the typical horvat supporters getting distracted by quantity though which isn't surprising.

 

13th is still worth more than a 28th + 56th + 70.

 

Abramov and Raty are both projects but the C is more valuable.

 

We also gained Beau who is matching Bos production on long Island and someone we will flip for even more assets next TDL.

 

Minni has no wiggle room and borderline playoff team.. Are they packing it in and going to sell now that they used up valuable capspace for a late 4th? 

[The King of Kings]

4 minutes ago, tas said:

3 words: first round exit. 

Time to watch this clip again.

Start watching from 0:42.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mustard Tiger]

9 minutes ago, tas said:

3 words: first round exit. 

Yup. "ROR will play all the hard defensive matchups". OK? The Leafs are going to play their 3rd line for 23mins a night now and only give 17/18min to JT and Matthews lines while they also have to deal with the hardest defensive matchups? He's closer to washed than cup run beast as well... That was 4 years ago.

 

 

Edited February 18, 2023 by Mustard Tiger

[tas]

7 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said:

Yup. "ROR will play all the hard defensive matchups". OK? The Leafs are going to play their 3rd line for 23mins a night now and only give 17/18min to JT and Matthews lines while they also have to deal with the hardest defensive matchups? He's closer to washed than cup run beast as well... That was 4 years ago.

 

 

they'll be crushed by the expectations and fall apart. 

[Boudrias]

10 hours ago, Alflives said:

Yup. Leafs will win the Cup this year. They are just too good, especially now. 

I expect a 2 hour Special Report on the Toronto Sports Network. This trade will certainly give the Laffers the Cup. May as well shut down the rest of the season and start the parade. I hope the Habs smoke TO tonight. 

Tank on! 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I expect a 2 hour Special Report on the Toronto Sports Network. This trade will certainly give the Laffers the Cup. May as well shut down the rest of the season and start the parade. I hope the Habs smoke TO tonight. 

Tank on! 

Habs need Might Mouse to save the day. 

[combover]

Ror is 32 and declining asset blues did good to dump him.

if he can stay heathy he help the laughs depth. But he’s at that age where injuries are far more frequent.

He’s a good third liner but a bit slow 

blues were  lucky he wasn’t  locked in till he’s 37. 
his next contract won’t be 7.5 per. 

 

he’s was listed as one of the 5 players to avoid this deadline 

In this article. 

https://thehockeywriters.com/5-players-to-avoid-2023-trade-deadline/?fbclid=IwAR2El7r1PD-LFUtFu_-jB9ZtR3IoHy6XPSRw0rNVa6lVdyH1hPhDj7-Qc9s

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2023 by combover