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how does a LTIR player with no chance of ever returning help with the cap? oh right, it doesnt. GGZ Gottem boiz

you really don't know what you are talking about with LTIR contracts. IF LTIR contracts created cap space to create a playing roster over the 82.5 limit they would be the most lucrative contracts in the league, however they do not do not allow that. when  a player is placed on LTIR a thing called ASCL is calculated. ASCL stands for accruable cap space limit. a team can not go over the ASCL. think of the ASCL as the new cap limit, and it can't ever be higher than 82.5 million, only lower.

you could have 10 billion dollars of cap space but your roster of "playing" players would never exceed 82.5 million in the regular season because of the ASCL.

Tampa Bay never had a playing roster worth over the upper cap limit in the regular season when Kucherov was injured. it was only during the playoffs that could they exceed it because there is no upper cap limit in the playoffs.

so knowing this, Ferland will not return to the nhl in the playoffs. Ferland  will not help edmonton or any other team with thier cap, never.

there is a scenario where a team could stack up on injured players that wont return until the playoffs start but its very risky. if the player or player's is/are deemed healthy before the playoffs start they might be forced into losing some player's for nothing or even paying draft picks to get rid of them. if they are over the cap after the trade deadline they will be forced to waive players until they are under the cap and they likely must be claimed. so likely the player or players they waive will be one's they don't want to lose, becuase teams won't willingly take on garbage contracts for free

lol its the canucks, we are not getting ekblad

We really dont have anything to give up

Benning and Green at noon September 8th

You're really that eager to hear vague answers to stupid questions?

even when jim’s being vague, you can still gain a little insight into what he is planning. both jim and travis knows what this team needs to go to next level. the moves he needs or wants to make won’t be easy, but he’ll try. he’s already said that teams want players on our team. i doubt they want the players that fans want moved. 

imo, we need a top 4 d man and a little muscle. i could see him making a deal like that got him miller.

Bought out Baer this summer - cap hit would be 1.76 mill for next year, then 800k the following year.

While the lineup is fine, I don't like the trade you made to make it happen.  I feel like that's a huge overpayment just to move Loui.

Well we need the cap space for the year when we're re-upping Hughes and Pettersson. With cap staying where it is for the next 2 years, it is going to take an overpayment to get Eriksson's contract off the books (without us retaining). We're actually getting a high 2nd rounder back from OTT, which is essentially a first. I actually don't think it's an overpayment, if anything I'm not sure OTT will go for the trade.

I actually had Sutter in a trade instead of Loui where I was retaining 2 mill on Sutter and sending him to EDM for a pick. But getting Sutter off the books doesn't help us when re-signing the 2 big ticket RFAs so I went back to Loui.

EDIT: And that trade actually fixes our salary cap issues for the future. We would still probably lose Pearson when his contract is up but we have some young kids coming up that can replace him like Podkolzhin who plays a somewhat similar game.

I guess it would all depend on whether it was something both the players and the teams want.  Contracts with options used to exist before the cap era.  There must be a reason why they dropped them.

Sounds like too many lawyers will be getting involved for the pay-checks and not the love of the game.

^ How so...?

well how do you explain that ep40 has not yet become mcdavid?

that brock is not undisputeably the 2nd coming of bossy

that oj keeps getting injured

that virt is not yet bert

i mean come on

it's gotta all be on the coach

The Canucks have been cursed for decades and it's all Green's fault! 

i agree @Squamfan I think it is the culture and the culture is driven by market demand as well. When my interest in hockey really peaked circa 2006-2007 I remember lots of fans and media alike would get on a player's case if they took a penalty that offset a 2 min PP we got as a result of a bad hit. They'd call it a stupid penalty. F**k the 2 min PP I want blood if one of our guys goes down. That attitude is what makes players think twice about standing up for each other, let alone be the aggressors. It was over a couple of seasons and then MG with his dumb f*king quote about turning the other cheek really set this feeble and fearful culture into motion.

"Biggest problem I have is the lines, I'd put McDizzle and Petey together"

They'd be double-shifted so it wouldn't matter about who is in the 2nd line (as they would be the 2nd line too).

I actually think Edmonton says no. Fun to speculate on values though. 

If McDavid comes our way, EP goes their way

I disagree. As much as I like most of the moves he made, it's the same argument CDC makes if JB makes questionable moves or picks: We need to wait and see. 

If we're going to "wait and see before coming to conclusions" only when JB makes seemingly questionable moves, we have to "wait and see before coming to conclusions" when he has had a seemingly good offseason. It's a results based league, and rightfully so.

I'd rather wait until we see the results of this summer first, but so far, I like it.

I’m ok with a 2 year extension to see where we are. If Canucks are at least getting into post season, then FA can extend him farther

@Nuxfanabroad as a huge Edler fan I really hope we don't give him anything close to 6 mill. 

Alex has exercised his NTC... he's been well paid over the years... it's time to take a home town discount if you're going to neg a trade to a contender to bring back assets. Short term deals... 3-5 million, 95% paid as bonus... maybe throw him a condo under the table if he'll agree to go under. 

As for Tanev, I really think we should move on from him and make a solid hockey trade to bring back either a roster DMan or Forward 

@naslund.is.king That's the point I think. Nothing is new... but we keep expecting the injury situation to change.

@Nuxfanabroad I get that, but I honestly just don't see management saying that to Edler. If they give him a deal without any NTC protection or very limited (10 team no trade list), then I could maybe get behind it, but I just don't see them coming to terms without a full NTC. I can even see Edler's camp pushing hard for a NMC so that he has to get protected in the expansion draft.

@King Heffy The point is that we give our many young players in the organization a shot, and maybe signing a durable vet that is defensively aware is enough - someone who can handle close to 20 mins a night in a shutdown role (maybe a Jordie Benn). Hutton can pick up the slack, and we can still give the kids some rope. We have a lot of talent in the pipeline on LD and many of them have put in their dues in the minors (Brisebois, Juolevi, Hughes, even Sautner). With the defense corps you mentioned, I'm willing to bet money that Edler and Tanev will once again both get injured together and miss significant time, and we will once again find ourselves swimming up sh*ts creek with our top 2 Dmen out of the lineup.

Also just an aside on Myers, I'm not as high on him as everyone else seems to be. He's big but he's not mean in any way, and he doesn't really use his size the way people might think he does. The only reason he plays a little physical is because he's on a Jets team that has a pack mentality culture. He's decent defensively (not great), but he's not offensively gifted so I'd be very wary about the deal I'd give him.

Are you on social media?  I ask because they have a facebook page for this exact thing (surprisingly) in my California city. They paid for ads I think, but I used to get their ad all the time and started following. Just an idea. 

There's a small outdoor rink where I played inline hockey that is getting little use these days beneath Burrard St. Bridge at Sunset Beach. Even on the weekends during summer it was empty compare to 5 -10 years ago when it was packed all day.

Just thought I'd put that out there and btw there is plenty of pay parking available between now and May...

Check that meetup app for ball hockey.

I remember a bunch of the engineers at my office used to host drop in ball hockey on there and charge like. $5-10 a person to cover costs for gym rental.

Ah, sorry, I missed the word "hit" in your original post. Yeah, I haven't seen that info around unfortunately.

@-AJ- No worries I've come to the conclusion that they are a national treasure that need to be excavated from a cave somewhere in Nunavut, and a brave hockey soul must do so at their own peril.

It's a pretty dubious stat anyhow (no real consistency - too subjective for one thing).

OK man 

Spanky is back!

@Vanuckleswhen you are in a position of power there are some things you just shouldn't do.  Not saying Louis CK has to spend the rest of his life in obscurity for this and it's too soon for a comeback, but a timeout for him was needed before everyone hopefully heals and continues on in life.

I think it means 50 years not 50 seasons.

if your confused, you've come to the right place. we're all confused here. 

i've lost some years along the way, myself.

The only problem with that lineup is that only Gudbranson and Bo have seen even a game of the NHL playoffs. Would probably need to add some veterans in the bottom 6. 

@Bure_Pavel Yes, that was a lineup strictly based on prospects and each of these guys will come into the league at different times so players will have different levels of experience. Also, like I said in my post, some of these guys could potentially get traded for young RFAs as early next year's draft (probably not until the summer though).

@Bure_Pavel but people whined when Benning brought in bottom 6 vets through UFA.

Lots of good centers in the upcoming draft.  Being able to utilize EP on both the wing and at center will make Green's job a lot easier. 

I know in NHL 17, you can trade Henrik Samuelsson for Zach Werenski, but that doesn't help you any.

Ever played “bubble hockey”?  We used to cut up hockey cards, and tape them over the plastic players to create our teams.  We cut up some good cards.  

@Alflives Alf, your posts always put a smile on my face  Sorry that you lost so many good cards, but you get a story out of it now.

@thejazz97 Appreciate the tip anyways. NHL '16 is the most current NHL I own. I don't buy them every year because of how stupid expensive they are. I'll probably wait to get NHL '20 when it comes out. I know I'm cheap, but I hate corporations and I'm not giving them my money unless I absolutely have to.

Jets. 

I think people have really not given Vegas enough credit for the unreal inaugural season and for giving the Kings a quick boot from the playoffs. I wouldn't count them out yet.

I don't necessarily believe they will win it all but they've been surprising people all year.

@goalie13 Not necessarily. Obviously they are all good teams, but imo the other teams are on another level. Although VGK did look mighty good in game 1.

@Heretic That's actually a very good point you bring up. I did not quite think of it, but I can see that happening for sure. It's going to be a draining series for both teams... It'll be interesting to see how the team that moves on handles the next opponent. It's not just the physical stuff, the emotional toll of that series will be tough to get over.

sure, if it fits....it may be to large, im not sure....i have all sigs disabled myself so im not sure how they work or the limitations.

thanks!

@Alflives You're right  I volunteered for a rec league called Halifax plays (I'm out on the east coast). It's a ball hockey league. I'm going to do that in the New Year as well.

@skategal I've definitely dealt with ups and downs before, but it wasn't like "having a bad day" kind of down, it is something that has been brewing for a while. I always feel weird about talking about that with friends/family for some reason. It's somewhat strange, I suppose, that I felt I can mention this on an online forum where I can stay anonymous...

@Vanuckles

Just to show how things will work out:  Years ago Mrs. Alf and I bought a property at Crescent Beach (The east coast Crescent Beach, down past Bridgewater).  Soon after the old Alf (me) started having troubles walking, and began his scooter days. I was extremely depressed, and figured my trips to our east coast get-a-way were over.  Then, the wife bought a fancy van, and she drove me and my scooter across Canada.  It was fun!  Although my first day at the beach house, I looked out and realized wasn't getting over the rocks to the water.  Depression set in again.  Well, next I know, the wife's got me in the van again (with my scooter) and she is driving right onto the beach - literally.  (You know, Crescent Beach is one lots of people drive on)  We parked on the beach.  She helped me into my scooter, and off I went.  I even rolled into the surf.  The coolest part was, once in the water, I was kind of free.  It was an amazing feeling really.  

Keep doing what you're doing, and letting people help you.  Better days are ahead for you too

@Alflives You are one of my favourite posters on this forum and you've been putting a smile on my face ever since I've started noticing your posts on these boards. Thanks for sharing that memory, it put a huge smile on my face at work

I haven't been to crescent beach yet, but you can bet your bottom dollar that once I go down there in the summer I will think of you. The drive across Canada has been on the ol' bucket list for a while now. I think once I get settled into my new job, I'll see if I can get away for a few weeks and do it.

I have honestly been in a lot worse state of mind before but just didn't reach out. This time I was just wondering how other people dealt with it, so I wanted to get some input from others. I know I'm not the first or last person to go through a slump. I think waiting around for it to pass was the wrong move for me, I should have gone out and made some decisions. Live and learn.

@VanGnomeif the currency isn't being stored inside the TFSA you can't do it and I inquired about using a large lump sum of money to buy a home with my TFSA and was told highly unlikely. You'd need to challenge that in court. You're better off with what I said above - two trading accounts one taxable one TFSA. But also like I said the CRA has lost in court and there are people who have made 6-7 figures tax free. 

@peaches5 wow I didn't realize about the re-upping on the TFSA account I am shocked but fortunately I have never been in a position where I had to find that out first hand LOL

@VanGnome I believe that the purchase of said investment has to come from the TFSA account I don't know how crypto currency investments work with TFSAs. Stocks, commodities, mutual funds/indexes etc  are all things you can for sure invest in through TFSA. You should probably contact an expert for how to do what you are proposing to involve a TFSA. It may be possible to do but I don't think there are clear rules about how you go about doing to guarantee the tax free status of returns on crypto currency.

Awesome job offer congrats!

I believe so

That's what I'm trying to figure out. What lovely person enabled the feature again?

No idea! But man CDC just got a whole lot more hostile

it depends on points for this award. so no. Not that he isn't a great d for us cause he is and thats all that matters. not some reward.

the day the oilers accept hutton for mcdavid is the day hutton wins the calder

@DoughtysCheck, someone give the OIlers Gillis' resume.