Boudrias Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, samurai said: CNN is very different now than it used to be back in the 80s. I very much agree that CNN has become a Fox like echo chamber for a certain audience. All the cable networks have done very well during the pandemic catering to their echo chamber. You can just see that by how many people on this topic paste CNN (good) and Fox (bad) video. CNN is clearly more interested in making money than being objective and balanced. Ted Turner didn't start CNN with the sole purpose of making money. It is disappointing. They are the anti-Trump network and it is profitable for them. People talk as if a second wave is a foregone conclusion. But exactly what constitutes a second wave. The media reported night club clusters in Korea as a second wave. The premise is based on the lax of social distancing and fall and winter weather. Interestingly, an argument in favor of lock down was that weather had nothing to do with virus spread because it was just that lethal. Politicians use the people's distrust in the truthfulness of media to their advantage. Trump is a master at it but the Dems are no different. The reality for most media is that their business plans are threatened and many are facing bankruptcy. It is no different in Canada as the Globe & Mail recently asked for more government money. When the revenue for these orgs becomes more based on government handouts the people should be very worried about the objectivity of their news coverage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 13 hours ago, coho8888 said: unfortunately people believe what they want to believe even though they know it probably isn't true. Its their way of coping. Just like that FB friend that I posted about earlier. Not able to cope with not taking her kid to a public playground or sit down for a meal at a Mcdonalds. So they glum on to anything that suits them and makes them feel better. Me? I'm the exact opposite. In a situation of crisis, my BS detector is on high. Same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, samurai said: CNN is very different now than it used to be back in the 80s. I very much agree that CNN has become a Fox like echo chamber for a certain audience. All the cable networks have done very well during the pandemic catering to their echo chamber. You can just see that by how many people on this topic paste CNN (good) and Fox (bad) video. CNN is clearly more interested in making money than being objective and balanced. Ted Turner didn't start CNN with the sole purpose of making money. It is disappointing. They are the anti-Trump network and it is profitable for them. People talk as if a second wave is a foregone conclusion. But exactly what constitutes a second wave. The media reported night club clusters in Korea as a second wave. The premise is based on the lax of social distancing and fall and winter weather. Interestingly, an argument in favor of lock down was that weather had nothing to do with virus spread because it was just that lethal. Not even close 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: Innate defences such as? You may have mistook innate for inane. I've been reading good things about vitamin D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RUPERTKBD Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Timbermen said: They make some good points. Sweden took some flac but has built herd immunity, don't forget to report their numbers if there is a second wave. 8 hours ago, Timbermen said: Thats from CNN, not a legit news source. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=sweden+herd+immunity Take your pick.....they all say the same thing.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=sweden+herd+immunity Take your pick.....they all say the same thing.... I really don't get why people are still holding Sweden up as an alternative approach. It clearly isn't working. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: I don’t think that the US is behind technologically speaking. It’s my opinion but I don’t trust the Chinese govt backed 5g vis-a-vis Huawei. The trust isn’t that their tech isn’t viable, but that the information that they’re privy to, plus having a dictatorial country such as China having such a large market share in that tech leaves me uncomfortable. Call me a conspiratorial worry-wart if you’d like. That’s fair. However, when on the largest stage in dealing with global implications, such as Covid-19 reporting/lack of reporting/hoarding of supplies/mismanagement/secrecy/unaccountability, I don’t believe that any global technological and foundational system by the Chinese gov’t ought to be relied upon as a trustworthy platform for the citizens of the world. I will put forth that I don’t equate the people of China or our good fellow Chinese Canadians with the govt of China. I don’t trust the Chinese govt, and I’ve seen no reason to move off that stance. What about the radiation!?! I don't know much about 5G but I have noticed that when the US brass isn't in control of something or fall behind, they discredit it regardless of it's worth. Now with the world shrinking due to social media, we're seeing the internet detectives figure out these massive conspiracies up here in Canada too. I hear your points though. I trust the Chinese gov, as much as I trust the US one, very little.... 'reporting/lack of reporting/hoarding of supplies/mismanagement/secrecy/unaccountability,' ..This could have been said about the USA too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Me_ said: That’s like claiming the Stanley Cup 10 games into the regular season. Leafs fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Terrorism charges for coughing on police Terrorism. Florida man indicted on terrorism charge after allegedly coughing on police https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/florida-man-indicted-on-terrorism-charge-after-allegedly-coughing-on-police-1.4949845 Terrorism? This is a new world . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Meanwhile, Trump claims he's taking this $&!#. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Terrorism charges for coughing on police Terrorism. Florida man indicted on terrorism charge after allegedly coughing on police https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/florida-man-indicted-on-terrorism-charge-after-allegedly-coughing-on-police-1.4949845 Terrorism? This is a new world . Well that is a state where 'mall type cop' name Zimmerman shot an unarmed youth in a condo complex the youth lived in but was declared "innocent". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Oh come on, it's funny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, stawns said: I really don't get why people are still holding Sweden up as an alternative approach. It clearly isn't working. This thread is hilarious. You would think it's a pandemic specialist's thread when in reality it's a people who can read and think they're experts thread. A couple nonstop posters spring immediately to mind. Edited May 22, 2020 by Gawdzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 People are back to talking about how well Sweden is doing. Please explain how having 63.5% of Canada's death total, with only 28% of Canada's population is such a good job. So many other countries doing a better job than Canada, yet folk want to about Swedish success. SAD. http://www.covid-19canada.com/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, gurn said: People are back to talking about how well Sweden is doing. Please explain how having 63.5% of Canada's death total, with only 28% of Canada's population is such a good job. So many other countries doing a better job than Canada, yet folk want to about Swedish success. SAD. http://www.covid-19canada.com/ I get their approach is for playing the long game, but they failed to protect their seniors, which was a cornerstone of that gameplan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 10 hours ago, gurn said: Small sample size, probably done in a small geographical location. I wonder how much overlap there was in the responses, did 25% of them believe all 4 theories? I feel like this study was the 1/20 that goes sideways when they say a poll is accurate 19/20 times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Terrorism charges for coughing on police Terrorism. Florida man indicted on terrorism charge after allegedly coughing on police https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/florida-man-indicted-on-terrorism-charge-after-allegedly-coughing-on-police-1.4949845 Terrorism? This is a new world . Isn’t he just mentally ill? Absolutely disgusting and he needs to pay a price imo but thats a quick jump to terrorism charges. Edited May 22, 2020 by Ronaldoescobar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Me_ said: Oh I watched it bud. That guy is all about reductionism, opening up as soon as possible, and trying really really hard to stay away from “hoax”. But he’s walking a very fine line. But who doesn’t want to listen to “unherd” from “LockdownTV”. They actually argue that the lockdown is what is killing people and that we would be better off reopening and finding herd immunity. May I suggest another extremely reputable channel everyone listens to: Real News Update with Lara Trump. Best news out there. Based on FACT. YES! FACT! And lastly, this super gem: “I think the epidemic has largely calmed down, and is on its way out in this country (England)” - Professor Sunetra Gupta 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, stawns said: I really don't get why people are still holding Sweden up as an alternative approach. It clearly isn't working. yeah 7.3% of the "herd" isn't what they were hoping for.... its almost a cruel joke. Swedish people still did things like social distancing so they ended up with a bit of the worst of both, too many deaths and no herd immunity. It really not all that useful to compare the US to them either. Even in Canada we have Quebec with over 80% of Canada's confirmed cases, and BC maybe 2 weeks away from under 100 active cases if the trend continues. So much depended on the early reaction and type of international travel that I don't know how useful any of these comparisons really are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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