Canuck Surfer Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 16 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Hoglander outscored his entire draft class last year except Jack Hughes, who was playing in his 2nd NHL season. Hughes scored 4 more points than Hoglander while playing over 19 minutes a night versus 15 minutes for Hoglander. Hoglander is a legit top 15 pick in his draft class in a redo of the draft. And he will be better than Dylan Guenther... I agree 100% with the bolded. Maybe, will ultimately touch top 10... I diasagree regarding Dylan. I had him 5th or 6th with Edvinsson. He has both Boeser's deceptive and his powerful shot. Kid can score. More wheels, a lot of speed. And he has some of that refined puck sense to read plays & protect the puck. Even some of the puck wizardry in Petey, makes plays at top speed. He has been a more dynamic player at all stages of development that can be compared to date. To Hoglander. Guenther IMO will be wicked. It does remain to be seen if fulfills that potential? As you say, Nils is already doing it against men, and in the NHL. Has 2 years grace? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted owl Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: I agree 100% with the bolded. Maybe, will ultimately touch top 10... I diasagree regarding Dylan. I had him 5th or 6th with Edvinsson. He has both Boeser's deceptive and his powerful shot. Kid can score. More wheels, a lot of speed. And he has some of that refined puck sense to read plays & protect the puck. Even some of the puck wizardry in Petey, makes plays at top speed. He has been a more dynamic player at all stages of development that can be compared to date. To Hoglander. Guenther IMO will be wicked. It does remain to be seen if fulfills that potential? As you say, Nils is already doing it against men, and in the NHL. Has 2 years grace? Hoglander dominated at the world junior championships against the best young talent in the world. 11 points in only 7 games. Would have gotten alot more points and maybe led Sweden to the gold medal if not for his suspension. He also has dominated his draft class so far, even outproducing by a fair margin the #2 overall pick in 2019 Kakko. I am sure Guenther will be a good player, most top 10 players are for the most part. But Hoglander also has puck wizardy, can juggle on a unicorn, and is tough as nails even though he is only 5'9". He's basically a gym rat. He also has great wheels and isn't afraid to get his nose dirty. Guenther is not at the level of Petey or else he would not have dropped to #9. We will see. I am biased towards Swedish players though so maybe I am not being totally objective here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 7:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. Miller 6'2 , 215 --Petey 6'2 185 -- Boeser 6'1 200 Podkolzin 6'2 -210 -Horvat 6'0 -210-- Garland 5'8 Hoglander 5'9 --Dickinson 6'2 -- Pearson 6'1 MacEwen 6'3 --Sutter 6'3 -- Motte 5'10...... Bailey 6'4 --Gadjovich 6'2, 215 Could use tough guy that can play top 9 ... Hard to find.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Googlie Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 The 3 musketeers... 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D-Money Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 8:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. Garland is the same size as Brayden Point. Hoglander is the same size as both Johnson and Gourde. How did they fare in the playoffs? 2 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, D-Money said: Garland is the same size as Brayden Point. Hoglander is the same size as both Johnson and Gourde. How did they fare in the playoffs? Not to mention the biggest player in their top 6 was Stamkos at 6’1” 193 lbs. The idea that you have to have size in your top 6 is an outdated one. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Weight is more important than height. Shorter but heavier players have lower centre of gravity and therefore more difficult to knock off the puck along the boards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) On 8/26/2021 at 7:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. What you have said just isn't true for the reasons other people have mentioned. Outside of your comment, I haven't heard of this being a concern at all. If you have a link to where you heard about this, it would be appreciated; otherwise, I'm just going to assume you're falsely assuming your opinion as being fact. Edited September 14, 2021 by The Lock 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) On 8/26/2021 at 7:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. Boeser is turning out to be that big, physical winger himself Edited September 14, 2021 by Googlie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Googlie said: Boeser is turning out to be that big, physical winger himself Yeah, all things considered, the chances of Brock being traded for another winger any time in the next year are somewhere between extremely slim and none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: Yeah, all things considered, the chances of Brock being traded for another winger any time in the next year are somewhere between extremely slim and none. Right beside my snowball collection I keep in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gawdzukes Posted September 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 8:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. On 9/14/2021 at 10:45 AM, Googlie said: Boeser is turning out to be that big, physical winger himself Yeah, Boeser is a pretty big boy and actually plays with quite a bit of grit and his d is getting better all the time. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 12:41 PM, Spotted owl said: Benning's acquistion of Connor Garland has caused a size concern in the top six. Having two "small," top six forward wingers like Garland and Hoglander, playing in the top six, may not work out so good in the long run, and in the playoffs. I wonder if Benning is planning on trading Beoser for big, physical winger over the next year, or so. You need players who win their battles. And races to the puck. It is worth more having size when the size can skate, move, and offer power like Hoglander? Less, when they cannot keep up with him! There are only so many Jamie Benn's in this world. Intrigued by Podkolzin who is like Hoglander plus 4 inches & 15 or 20 lbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Hoglander and Garland both play big games and fight as hard as anyone for the puck and win battles, so at this time size does not matter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted September 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2021 Hoglander may have switched his number to #21 based on his helmet. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Get those 2 on the same line, even if its on the 3rd line. #21 was always Hoglanders number pre Canucks so im happy hes got it back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said: Get those 2 on the same line, even if its on the 3rd line. #21 was always Hoglanders number pre Canucks so im happy hes got it back. I can just imagine the conversation between Pods and Hogs in that photo. Pods is saying, “OMG, look at these guys!” And Hogs is saying something like, “I told you. These guys are insanely good.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Canuck #12 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) And knowing how classy Hoglander is, there can't be any doubt that he contacted Loui and got his permission to take on his old number..... can there?? Edited September 16, 2021 by Captain Canuck #12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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