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  1. It would be stupid not to try and trade a forward this offseason. No reason to lose an asset if you can get a pick out of it. No reason to worry about competition with prospects such as Pettersson, Gaudette, Dahlen, MacEwen, Jasek, Lind fighting for spots. Also if one wants more competition we could sign some PTOs.

     

    In the end we should clear some room so we don't lose valuable assets

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    2. coastal.view

      coastal.view

      brock has demonstrated his line is always the first line

      so if beagle is his center

      then beagle centers the first line

      wow .. a 1st line center picked up as an ufa for 3 million this off sesason

      jb must be some sort of genius

       

    3. luckylager

      luckylager

      . a 1st line center picked up as an ufa for 3 million this off sesason

      jb must be some sort of genius

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    4. combover

      combover

      Waivers and buy outs are more likely the only way vancouver can clear a roster spot. 

      Gagme has no value, eriksdone has been worthless and would cost us a pick to move,  bearcheese not sure how much value he has even he’s been a warm and cold player that’s been heathy scratched or long term injured every year he’s been in the nhl,not sure he’s a top 6 on most nhl teams.  And we keep signing veteran 3/4liner ufas to 3-4 year deal with m-ntcs. 

      This is benning last season here (finger crossed) his 31st place team and empty area (again) will end him. The plug love will stop and hopefully ownership see then need a GM with a spine not a sniveling clueless puppet. 

      The only tradable players on this team are the ones that we can’t afford to move. 

      Trade from a position of strength so we can trade 4th liners and bottom pair d men. 

      Cant wait to see who we draft 4th oa. 

       

      Too bad the expansion draft isn’t this season we couldn’t lose a valuable asset if we tried.

       

       

  2. Its sad how we have 13Mil tied up in Eriksson, Sutter and Dorsett. All self inflicted bad cap hits. Thanks Vegas for taking Sbisa at least from us. Benning better not throw too much money at big UFAs this summer. Take some bad cap from teams and gain more assets and move on.

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    2. canuktravella

      canuktravella

      sedins are off books next yr  we have 19.5 off this yr even before any more trades are made or horvat is resigned

    3. canuktravella

      canuktravella

      and gillis signed edler not benning  and he has a ntc 

    4. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      haha all I meant was that Bennings track record with signing players seems to be overpaying them too much in the hope they can produce more then they've shown. Eriksson might have a comeback year but he's getting old and will decline in the next few years.

  3. Hearing some Hutton bashing on the radio. Out of curiosity am I the only one that thinks Hutton has proved himself a top 4 defensemen this year?

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    2. King Heffy

      King Heffy

      Most improved dman this year.  Idiots calling in had to get their parents to show them how to operate a phone first.

    3. Down by the River

      Down by the River

      Hutton stepped up in a huge way when Edler went down. I have loved his response to Green's call-out last year. Belongs in this team's second pairing for the foreseeable future. 

    4. Pears

      Pears

      Nope. He’s done an incredible job this year. Hughes is gonna be such a huge addition to the team when he comes up. 

  4. Chicken strips at Tims... what is the world coming to.

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    2. SabreFan1

      SabreFan1

      They've had things like pita pockets and sandwich wraps, so chicken strips isn't surprising especially considering they're owned by Burger King.

    3. Glug Datt

      Glug Datt

      prepare to be disappointed.. 

    4. SabreFan1

      SabreFan1

      I avoid fast food and I like their coffee so Timmy Ho rarely disappoints me

  5. Does Eriksson have any trade value? Or is he a negative and would be a cash dump?

     

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    2. Salmonberries

      Salmonberries

      It's all bad contract team material. Five more years at $6 million per; a full pull no movement clause for one more year and a full no trade for the following two years. I put this one all on Aqua though personally, not on Jim and Trevor. No way are they that stupid.

    3. JM_

      JM_

      How about we see if he can turn things around under Green first?  IMO he was Vrbata 2.0 under Willie, talent that old Willie had no idea how to deploy. 

    4. stawns

      stawns

      I think LE is going to smack a lot of people in the face with it next season

  6. I wonder if we see Juolevi draw back into game action now that he doesn't have a chance of becoming Seattle expansion eligible.

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    2. Bad_BOI_pete

      Bad_BOI_pete

      rafferty was under contract during his college year in 2018/2019.

       

      “Professional Games” includes the following: any NHL Games played, all minor league regular season and playoff games and any other professional games played, including but not limited to, games played in any European league or any other league outside North America, by a Player pursuant to his SPC

       

      so minor league games counted too! according to the cba

       

      i do not understand why teves would be considered eligible, because his contract was signed after the college year finished.

       

      still there may be a source that you are referring to that goes against the CBA?

    3. mll

      mll

      From your article:  “Pursuant to his SPC” - standard player contract.  

       

      Rafferty did not have an NHL contract in college.  College is not a pro league either but an amateur league.

       

      Tryamkin is still Canuck property as RFA but is exempt because his years in the KHL don’t count as he is not under an SPC/NHL contract so only has 2 pro seasons.

       

      Also “For the purpose of this section”.  There are different definitions of age, pro years throughout the CBA.  They are using the waiver definition of pro years for expansion.

       

      Teves, Rafferty same situation as Fabbro.  1 game while Hughes as teenager needed 10 NHL games.  

       

    4. CanuckinEdm

      CanuckinEdm

      Thanks for the info guys!

       

  7. ALEXIS LAFRENIÈRE

     

    If you haven't heard that name, remember it now!

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    2. Ghostsof1915

      Ghostsof1915

      Rimouski Rocket.

    3. HerrDrFunk

      HerrDrFunk

      As far as names to remember go, it's not Heats Flamesman.

    4. VanGnome

      VanGnome

      OHL (McDavid) and QMJHL are two VERY different leagues, and you cannot directly compare two players offensive output.

  8. So Goldy has two very good games and then gets demoted. Cant we just keep some of our best lines together and not change them up every game?

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    2. Baer.

      Baer.

      I think the reason Goldy is on 3rd line is to see what Pearson can do on Petey's line

    3. smithers joe

      smithers joe

      i think goldy needs to play with 2 strong defensive responsible players. i don’t see him as a top six player, so where is he suppose to play?

    4. Dazzle

      Dazzle

      @smithers joe Goldobin is top six or bust. He has to earn his way for his spot, so this is a challenge for him to see if he can stick.

  9. I don't mean to scare everyone here, but what if Megna makes the team out of camp...

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    2. Stelar

      Stelar

      Shhhhhh.... I hadn't heard his name till you said it....

    3. Green Building

      Green Building

      Then our injury troubles picked up right where we left off last season.

    4. Nuxfanabroad

      Nuxfanabroad

      Millin' minions mostly minusin' Meg

      Just chillin' to Steely Dan's 'Peg'

      Don't worry 'bout list

      Whole team is the gist

      Endless doubt will just feel lika' drag

  10. Any advise for someone buying their first house?

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    2. luckylager

      luckylager

      Coastal, it wasn't my intent to "disparage an entire industry".

      I just wanted to stress the importance of bringing in someone who understands the actual structure from foundation to peak and is actually allowed to remove/move materials in order to make those assessments.

       

      The home inspector didn't find anything other than some funky DIY sink plumbing in the bathroom, two electrical sockets that weren't up to code because they were too close to the floor, and he recommended hard wired smoke detectors. All of those things had already been identified by the time he came through anyways.

       

      @RetroCanuck - tldr: be diligent in the inspection stage. Get your tradesperson friends to take a look and buy em scotch for it. If you dont have those kinds of friends, look for referrals for a good contractor who does inspections. I believe most will as it gets them a foot in the door with a new homeowner who will most likely be doing renos.

    3. Nuxfanabroad

      Nuxfanabroad

      Sometimes I just wanna' yurt in a rainforest.

    4. DADDYROCK

      DADDYROCK

      Pay for a home inspection and make sure it is by a responsible company,that way you will have a list of projects that should be addressed in time.

      Put a bit of extra money aside because there is always something to give you a headache and unless you are super handy or a contractor you will need that cash for something.

      Always make sure you can handle the mortgage without starving.

      Get used to not having extra money to go here and there,but once you start to build equity the banks will love you.

      Talk to people in the neighborhood if you get a chance to find out a little about the place you are going to purchase(was it a drug house,was someone murdered there,is it a good neighborhood for kids etc.)

      GOOD LUCK!

       

  11. Does anyone else think McDavid is overrated? 

     

    Hes great off the rush but once he's stationary in the offensive or defensive zone he's just average. 

     

    In my mind he will never be the calibre that people think he will be.

     

    Don't get me wrong he's a great player and he's young, but is he currently overrated?

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    2. CRAZY_4_NAZZY

      CRAZY_4_NAZZY

      McDavid is still young, he will round out his game as he matures, and will understand he can't be a one trick pony.  The rest of the league will get faster, and his oppositions will find ways to slow him down. 

       

      The final game against Edmonton at home was a good indication of that.  Tyler Motte literally shut McDavid down, skating toe to toe with him all game long.  McDavid will need to learn to use his teammates better and create offense beyond just the rush. 

       

       

    3. Rob_Zepp

      Rob_Zepp

      How can he be overrated?   Ignoring his own stats, he single handedly put Edmonton into the playoffs sacrificing individual awards for team success.   He was a back-checking star and finally learned that team play is what wins.    

    4. J-23

      J-23

      I think he passed up some good scoring chances yesterday against Finland.

  12. Would you trade Eriksson for Ladd?

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    2. RRypien37

      RRypien37

      100% yes. 

    3. D-Money

      D-Money

      I probably wouldn't. Ladd has 4 years left on his deal, Loui has 3. Also, the last year of Eriksson's contract can be bought out for cap relief ($1M signing bonus, $3M salary), but every year of Ladd's contract is buyout-proof.

    4. Ghostsof1915

      Ghostsof1915

      If you were asking 3 years ago yes. He played 26 games and 11 points this year.  

      And he's 33 years old. 

      Pass. 

       

  13. Heres hoping for a Guddy-Nylander trade!

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    2. Alflives

      Alflives

      We need Guddy's presence.  Until we have another bopper, who can play, he stays put.  

    3. Shift-4

      Shift-4

      No thanks

      Send them Tanev instead

    4. Nucker 67

      Nucker 67

      Nylander and Pettersson would be fun to watch. Both very elite, skilled players for the Top 6. But I guess Leipsic, Eriksson and Roussel in the Top 6 is okay too (not)  lol

  14. Why is everyone trying to trade our developed/almost developed prospects. Lets just trade Juolevi Virtanen and Gaudette....

     

    Let the team grow. Our window is long if were patient

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    2. canuktravella

      canuktravella

      ya who knows majority of fans are  clueless at least benning wont be getting rid of them i hope he has patience for virtanen  he will be a 30 goal 25 assist player soon 

    3. Phil_314

      Phil_314

      @#Canucks I get what you mean by he's probably going to click soon, but the streakiness/ lack of consistency might need a Grabner-type trade to really light a fire under him.  If benching/ relegating to extra forward and getting called out by coach for your lack of effort doesn't do it (esp. when you get beaten by an undrafted free agent), not sure what else could be done since we can't send him to minors.  Of course he won't have optimal value now but we should recoup what we can if he's not going to have optimal deployment and coach's trust (maybe send J.T. Miller after him for being lazy and have him skate with Pete to see what true consummate professionals do?).

    4. #Canucks

      #Canucks

      @Phil_314 I’m not sure what the answer will be but I have this feeling he’s looking for something in his personal life. He has the skill & size and he knows how to play. When he is motivated he’s absolutely awesome to watch. He may have personal insecurities that will only go away with maturity but I do think maturity is the key with him. Time will tell whether that is here in Van or somewhere else.

  15. Can we all just take a moment and appreciate what Benning has done for our prospect pool! He's made some mistakes along the way, but our prospect pool is the deepest its ever been and with some elite prospects! Hell our Hobey Baker winner isn't even considered in our top 5 by many people!

     

    Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Juolevi, Gaudette, Dahlen, Lind, Woo, DiPietro, Gadjovich, etc, etc, etc.

     

    Jim Benning, we thank you!

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    2. coastal.view

      coastal.view

      it all looks really promising

      i am a jb supporter

      but until we see more of this potential being realized on the main roster

      it's all still just potential

      and too much congrats are just premature

      but i get it people are impatient

      and have their hopes up

       

    3. BlastPast

      BlastPast

      Hey, you gotta give a shout out to the amateur scouting staff for this too.

    4. NewbieCanuckFan

      NewbieCanuckFan

      ^ under the Burke regime we got two HHOFers (Art Hoss, Lindsay, etc.,) and one Selke winner.  It's a tough act to follow.

  16. Although it would hurt our team I almost wish Baertschi would retire. Concussions are brutal and to be on your fifth one and hear Baer talk the way he is makes me nervous for him. Hoping him the best life he can live so lets pray he doesn't take any more stupid headshots.

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    2. 48MPHSlapShot

      48MPHSlapShot

      At the end of the day, it's his choice it make. If his doctor think's he'll be OK to play again, I don't have the credentials to argue with him.

    3. Nucker 67

      Nucker 67

      Makes me wonder if he'll be able to play anymore, if that side-swipe did that much damage. Hate to see a skilled player suffer injuries like this, before he even hits his peak. It would be nice to have Baertschi back, but the Canucks do have some depth to fill in. Baer's got to do what's right for him and his future.

    4. NewbieCanuckFan

      NewbieCanuckFan

      Salo laughs at the term “Iron Man”.:P

       

      The hockey gods must have a sense of humour as I think Salo was the only fully healthy D in the 2011 Finals (I don’t count Ballard :P).

  17. Can someone honestly tell me that Spooner has more of a future at this club then Goldobin?

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    2. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      Boeser, Pearson, Leivo, Virtanen, Baertschi and Rousell as it stands now will be our top 9 next season in my opinion. Ideally Virtanen and Rousell get shifted down to the 4th line with additions though.

    3. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      Wouldn't be surprised to see Goldy here next training camp though. Make it seem like a fresh start and if he cant cut it then you trade him if you can or waive him.

    4. Bissurnette

      Bissurnette

      Honestly Green isn't making a lot of sense with his decisions lately.

  18. Can someone explain to me how a high stick that draws blood isn't a 4 minute penalty?

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    2. Art Vandelay

      Art Vandelay

      The ref is not required to assess a double minor if there is blood. It’s an option the ref has at his discretion. Options being a double minor, a major, or a match penalty, IF there is a obvious/visible injury. I’ve seen double minors assessed when there wasn’t blood. 

       

      Don’t agree with the call tonight, but it was within the rules. 

    3. AlwaysACanuckFan

      AlwaysACanuckFan

      Stecher showing his displeasure 

       

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    4. Nuxfanabroad

      Nuxfanabroad

      'Tis but a scratch..merely a flesh wound!

  19. So how many picks will Benning go "off the board" this year with?

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    2. WeneedLumme

      WeneedLumme

      Well, it won't be possible for him to go off the board with 5th overall this year, because there is definitely no consensus there. And in later rounds there's no real consensus in any year. So I'm going to have to go with "zero".

    3. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      Every draft has different levels of prospects based on ratings by pro scouts. Therefore its not hard to go off the board in any round. All Im saying is that Benning is known to go against the flow with some of his picks and in some cases unearth diamonds. And then sometimes you choose off the board and it backfires. Virtanen is the perfect example of this considering how he's developed so far.

    4. Kurt Nirvanagut

      Kurt Nirvanagut

      Depends on his blood alcohol level. 

  20. Sounds like Edmonton wants to ditch Sekera. Would you trade Hutton for Sekera+Puljujarvi?

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    2. mll

      mll

      Puljujarvi is no longer waiver exempt.  There was tension with Edmonton because he didn't want to play in the AHL and they wanted him to develop further in the AHL.

    3. Jaku

      Jaku

      Nope..broke down d-man and a probable bust. Hard pass.

    4. NHL'er

      NHL'er

      For sure I would. Don't think they'd give up on Puljujarvi that easily though.

  21. Would you trade, 

     

    Guddy straight across for Florida's first?

     

    Tanev for Edmontons first+Mantha?

     

    Baertschi for a late first?

     

    Hutton for a third?

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    2. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      @-AJ-, yes but they had the key pieces you could build around. You need stars and those now come through the top end of the draft. Much harder to find gems in the later rounds like Detroit did.

       

      Modern NHL you need that top end talent and then build around them. We have a few of those guys in Bo, Brock, Pettersson, Juolevi, Demko but we need more, especially on D if we wish to succeed and win cups.

    3. Ghostsof1915

      Ghostsof1915

      I beg to differ Retro, our team is weak on D prospects. And defensemen are always in demand. 

      I'd like to see our first 3 picks as d-men. The next 3 on bpa. 

       

      - Dahlin (ok wishful thinking)

      - If Samuelsson is still available in second round, otherwise Stanislav Demin.

      - Xavier Bouchard 

       

      The smallest d man in that group will be 6'2".  Because Utica needs some d-men too for developing. 

    4. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      Differ on what Ghost? The trades? Because I agree with you and do think we need those D prospects you refer to (I like Miller over Samuelsson) and trading pieces away for high picks and ending up near the bottom of the league are the way to get them.

       

      Our problem isn't necessarily that we don't have D prospects, we  just don't have elite ones that you usually get through the top end of the draft.

  22. Considering Granlund's deployment 5G 11P is pretty damn good. If he keeps this pace up he will be around 15G 35P which is pretty good considering his 3rd/4th line deployment and line mates.

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    2. NewbieCanuckFan

      NewbieCanuckFan

      @cookieeater55

       

      OK, so I grossly xaggerated the high price part, but Schaller has been completely useless. 

    3. Alflives

      Alflives

      Would JB trade our Granny for Shinkaruk back?  :shock:

      Granny is a very useful player.  He's like a Swiss Army knife.  He can do a lot of different things.  I wonder if he could even play goalie, in a pinch?

    4. Dazzle

      Dazzle

      @Alflives

       

      Granlund's not really good at faceoffs. I wish he could be better at that.

  23. Anyone have the Athletic and can tell there 20 through 11 prospects?

     

    They have MacEwen at 10 which somewhat surprised me so am curious to know who's below him.

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    2. Where's Wellwood

      Where's Wellwood

      I would think that 11-13 and maybe even Jasek at 14 has more potential than MacEwen

    3. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      If MacEwen can get accustomed to his natural centre position next year and continue to put up points then he's a very good prospect. 0.5pts per game is pretty stellar for a rookie season. Is he better then a potential starting goaltender or top 4D remains the question?

    4. J-23

      J-23

      If you read MacEwen prospect thread, some were saying he would be lucky to make the AHL.

  24. Best part about this final 4 is that none of them have won in a while, or ever. Tampa won in 2004 which was 14 years ago. 

     

    Im glad Pittsburgh and Boston are out for that reason

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    2. Baer.

      Baer.

      @Roger Neilson's Towel I'm stricken because on one hand I want Jets to bring a cup to Canada, but on the other Vegas is my new #2 favourite team behind Canucks and I really think a cup win for them would be an epic story to remember.

       

      Wouldn't mind seeing Ovi win the cup either...

       

      Nikita Kucherov and Victor Hedman are my favourite non-canuck players. If any of the 4 teams win the cup, I'll be happy!

    3. Roger Neilsons Towel

      Roger Neilsons Towel

      @Baer. I guess you’re guaranteed to be happy then! ::D

    4. Coconuts

      Coconuts

      If Vegas wins in their first year I'll be bitter and hate them forever

  25. Prediction- NyR and Canucks are working on something big

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    2. RetroCanuck

      RetroCanuck

      Maybe not big lol

    3. Warhippy

      Warhippy

      NYR Just beat some seriously crucial teams in the last week without making major moves.  Odds are they don't do much and run with what they have.

    4. Heretic

      Heretic

      Really big!  We got a 4th round draft pick!  Plan the parade!

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